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November 1; Labour/coalition is in power. What should they do first??

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GracesGranMK3 Sat 10-Aug-19 18:12:10

I saw this on another forum where putting Boris in prison was getting many "I agree" clicks.

Another popular suggestion was "Go on bended knees and ask to be readmitted on the same terms as previously enjoyed."

A thirds suggestion was "Find out from security services exactly what they know about the activities of the far-right in the UK linked to international far-right. May didn't act on what she knew. Johnson is involved."

I enjoyed reading them but where do you think we would go from the chaos of Brexit and Johnson?

Minniemoo Sun 11-Aug-19 12:56:20

I don't care if you don't take me seriously. GGMK3. However I am lucky to be surrounded by people who do take me seriously and appreciate my point of view. Even if they don't always agree. And it's nigh on impossible to be agreeing with everyone at all time.

You mention the newspapers . I am surprised to learn that the Star is still operating. But even if that's true you have 5 pro Leave and 3 anti Leave. Not a massive disparity.

I try to read articles from all areas, not just mainstream media which we know is filled with lots of untruths and allegations from 'sources' who are never named.

We can all pick out articles that suit our agenda. It means nothing.

So you can also carry on what you're doing with your belief that we'll all be in utter dire straits if a no deal Brexit goes ahead.

But don't be surprised to learn that not everyone will agree with you.

And they're not all stupid either. There's plenty of 'stupid' on both sides.

dragonfly46 Sun 11-Aug-19 12:57:12

Dominic Cummings is a very dangerous man who has been given too much power.

Grandad yes Jeremy Corbin can hold a crowd because he says what people want to hear. It does not matter that there is no way he can carry his promises out.

As for Boris doing a good job - I wonder what people are seeing. All I see is him scooting around the country promising to dish out money here and there and spouting about how the EU will change their minds. He is just as ineffectual as Corbin.

We seem to be well up the river without a paddle at the moment.

Grandad1943 Sun 11-Aug-19 12:58:28

Minniemoo, in regard to your post-@12:15 today, I would be the first to agree that Jeremy Corbyn is not a good Parliamentary speaker. I also believe that he in all probability personally does not hold the European Union structures in high regard.

However, I firmly believe that he holds the structures of the Labour Party and the broader Labour moment in the country as sacrosanct and in that a freedom of voice that all members and affiliated members of the movement should and must have in forming policy, along with the day to day running of the party.

The above can be witnessed in how Corbyn has totally supported last Septembers Labour Movement Delegate conference policy on Brexit through "thick and thin" criticism. That action I feel demonstrates his commitment to those rank and file activists and them having a real voice in Britain's Brexit future.

That policy so derided by many who considered themselves the betters of those "low born" activists has proven over the passage of this year to be the correct one. In that, even the Tory Party now seem to believe that a General Election may be the only way to resolve this Brexit crisis.

It is a pity that what those Labour grassroots activists realised almost twelve months ago was not accepted widely at that time, for had that been the case the most damaging political and constitutional crisis this country has experienced in over 75 years may by now have been all over.

As stated, those rank-and-file activist realise that, and Jeremy Corbyn realised and supported that.

The above is why I remain aligned to Labour Party/movement democracy and policies and Jeremy Corbyn to remain as leader in bringing forward those policies.

Anyway, we are now of to what will be a somewhat late lunch at one of our daughter's homes. So, bye for now.

Minniemoo Sun 11-Aug-19 13:01:05

Enjoy your meal. Grandad.

I'm off to my son's to see my new granddaughter, so ciao for now!

GracesGranMK3 Sun 11-Aug-19 15:57:09

For those who think this man has been elected ...

jura2 Sun 11-Aug-19 16:16:51

I'm sure I'll agree, but do remind me what a SPAD is ?

Lessismore Sun 11-Aug-19 16:46:31

Our country must be a wonderful place, else people wouldn't be taking to canoes to get here!

Yeah, that'll be right.

Firecracker123 Sun 11-Aug-19 16:59:11

I never said that Dom Cummings was in the cabinet but hey ho you are good at twisting posts GracesGran to suit your own agenda. Water off a ducks back to me.

GagaJo Sun 11-Aug-19 16:59:14

Show Jeremy Corbyn the respect he deserves for being that unicorn, an honest politician. Renationalise the railways, utilities and SCHOOLS. Cancel all the corrupt, NHS contracts designed to make a profit for right wing politicians and their cronies. Break all ties with Trumpington and rejoin Europe!

GracesGranMK3 Sun 11-Aug-19 17:10:24

Jura it's Special Avdvisor:

A special adviser works in a supporting role to the British government. With media, political or policy expertise, their duty is to assist and advise government ministers.

This man seems to have stepped well outside the definition.

GillT57 Sun 11-Aug-19 17:32:50

Cummings reminds me of Rasputin, instead of promising a cure for the heir's affliction, he promises Brexit. On a funnier note; the Editor of the I wondered yesterday if the power cuts were someone trying to sort out the country by turning it off and then on again grin

GracesGranMK3 Sun 11-Aug-19 22:52:13

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/switzerland-to-re-run-referendum-because-voters-were-not-given-full-information/11/04/?fbclid=IwAR0zI22otn_RuvQRUPY0nuwQk5-sZ2vEp0CC_PVXI0kXX9eNKgIiFauwKWQ

Switzerland to re-run referendum because “voters were not given full information”