Is Prince Andrew's protestation too little too late?

The Royals have always had scandals, though, haven't they?

This one's no different, except there's no escaping the media now. It'll blow over eventually.

Didn't Mountbatten have a lot to do with fixing the marriage of the DofE and Her Maj?

I understand that Princess Margaret could have been with "the love of her life" if she had been prepared to give up being royal and just become Mrs Townsend. She chose to stay royal and live a hedonistic life doing pretty much nothing of any value.

I think it is difficult for the second child. I know Princess Anne has said that right from childhood their nanny made it plain that Prince Charles was the No. 1 child. However, Anne has worked very hard for The Firm, and also with her horse riding, and found her niche early in life. Prince Harry could take note, but will find it hard because his wife wants the celebrity lifestyle and does not seem to understand the difference between celebrity and royalty .... and Harry at the moment is too besotted to show her. Harry needs a job and to get out of the pulpit.

The Royals get away with everything, Andrew doesn’t do a worthwhile role of any kind for this country so why should we pay to keep him, we are almost broken with our NHS, housing and Education we can’t afford to keep a lazy parasite like him.

Andrew has always felt very "entitled" .... he has been the same with his daughters.

On Mountbatten, he didn’t just play a part in the marriage of the queen and Phillip. He was very much involved with the whole family. With the Duke of Windsor and Wallis, he escorted Wallis to her husband’s funeral.

George 6th had mental health problems, they all relied on Mountbatten. When he was murdered Margaret was so distressed she publicly called the IRA , pigs.

I don't think George V1th had mental problems. It is true that he was nervous, stammered badly, was highly strung and totally unprepared for kingship, but more with the help and support of his very able, strong minded wife, and mother he made a more than passable King. Mountbatten was a very ambitious man and quite frankly a mischief maker, pushing a marriage that the king and queen simply didn't want, in order to have his name included in the royal surname, causing the Queen enormous upset in the early days of her marriage! The Queen mother disliked him intensely, having seen through his machinations from day 1!! So what you saw, was not quite what you got!!

Don't most families have 'scandals' of some kind, certainly events or relations classified as 'dirty linen' and not talked about, or quietly forgotten.

They certainly exist in my family.

Mountbatten was also a father figure to Prince Charles when he was growing up.

If the queens parents didn’t want the marriage it would not have taken place. Arranged marriages are not decided by one
person. The queen mother was chosen for the duke of Windsor, and as in some previous generations she got the second son.

All the ‘the queen mother hated Wallis and Edward because they caused her husband an early death’ . Hell hath no fury etc.

Prince Andrew imo is arrogant and just does what he wants. He can't be completely ignorant of what was going on.

According to the BBC Epstein and GM were at a "star studded" party at Sandringham, PA hosted a party for GM at Sandringham and they were on a pheasant shoot in Norfolk.

And what else do we not know......
It's a hard life being a royal.

Just before I read this I was on a support site for M.E. sufferers looking for advice on work they could possibly do at home as they are so short of money for essentials like food!/are finding it impossible to keep going to work with the pain and tiredness. (I was one of them)
And how many British citizens are suffering..homeless, ill, hungry.

So I have limited sympathy for the queen. If she gave up even one of her residences to help her "subjects" I might think she cared...a little.

But nothing will ever change. PA will be excused. He and the rest of the gang will continue to live with privilege and get away with everything. The whole system in Britain stinks.

The Queen has two residences , the others are not hers to give away.

Can you explain Anniebach and save me googling please ?

annepl the queen owns Balmoral, handed down from Victoria and Sandringham handed down from V11.

Buck House, Windsor, KP, Holyrood, St,James Palace are official residences of the reigning monarch but not the property of.

When queenie became queen her mother and sister had to move out of Buck House

Handed down...and where did the money come from in the first place?

The queen doesn't need use of all these residences. I just read a little about residences owned/used by the monarch and the luxury estates owned by the others. What utter privilege! They know they don't deserve this.
Meanwhile we are putting food in foodbank trolleys and campaigning for social housing. What a laugh!
Sorry I've gone totally off thread.

I have no idea where Victoria got her money from,

Suppose Windsor Castle could be turned into flats ?

I do not believe PA has any innocence in this matter.
He has an extraordinarily arrogant expression on his face in some photos and from things I have read I think he enjoys taking advantage because that proves how powerful he is.

He is known to be the rudest of the royals.
I do not understand how he is the Queens favourite. What does that say about her?

I really want the entire Royal family to be put to work and their privilege lifestyle to end.

PA has to have known what Epstein was. I do believe that.
I hope that more facts emerge and he has to own up.

He has responsibilities in return for his lifestyle and he is not playing the game.

I agree about his non-innocence in this pinkquartz.

*PA has to have known what Epstein was. I do believe that. I hope that more fats emerge and he has to own up.
He has responsibilities in return for his lifestyle and he is not playing the game*

I agree. This is not going to go away. What a disgusting group of people he keeps company with a Maxwell, Trump, Epstein, talk about 'drain the swamp'

I bet he gets away with it.

He obviously was aware that young girls were around, why did he not at the very least sever ties with Epstein or even confront the pervert, bearing in mind Epstein's previous conviction.

I don't think Andrew's taste is for very young girls but he should be open about what he saw instead of thinking he can pull the wool over peoples eyes with his statements about not being aware. As I said before, he is not the brightest of people but even he must have suspected something was wrong.

I don't know what could be done with the Royal residences, but there's got to be something better.
Agree with posters re arrogance etc.

But it's a lovely hot sunny day here in N Ireland. Getting ready for art class. Time to stop depressing myself. Hope you are getting some sun too Anniebach . ?

I'm afraid Mountbatten engineered the meeting between his nephew and the very young P.E, who, as predicted,fell very much in love with him. The king and Queen hoped it would be a passing phase but Mountbatten persisted and encouraged his nephew so the affair intensified. The king and Queen considered P.P a bit of a 'lad' and quite unsuitable for their much loved daughter, but she was so insistent that sooner than break her heart they reluctantly gave their permission . (P.P once,while wearing a kilt, curtseyed to the King on greeting him at breakfast!!!!The king was not amused!)

He must have been staying at Balmoral if he was wearing a kilt, who witnessed this ?

Prince Albert actually bought Balmoral for Queen Victoria, Edward V11th bought Sandringham, both properties now belong to HM through inheritance. Osbourne house was designed by Prince Albert as a holiday retreat for the RF, but after Victoria's death it was gifted to the nation. The RF have got their money down the ages through inheritance, land and the collection of fine art, even a whole county!! (money attracts money!!) Queen Victoria would have inherited her position and finances through both her parents,as they all do!

And King William 1Vth whom she succeeded.