So he’s done it?

So, Nanniejcl; as you're obviously not 'simple' can you tell me your solution to the Irish problem?

'It is not EUs cash, they just decide where to invest "our money that we have given to them"...which only goes to the North/Wales etc because the EU distributes it fairly unlike central government that would keep it south of Watford...

Urmstongran, thank you, yes that's exactly what I meant by "pulling together". Going by this thread, it's pretty obvious how difficult it has, and will be, to negotiate any kind of deal or extraction out of the EU. I think if you voted in the referendum, by your participation, you agreed to accept and abide by the result. We are all grown-ups and whether the Leave campaign or Remain campaign told lies, there was ample information out there and available to make our own decision on how one was going to vote. We have had three years of turmoil, that has for sure weakened the country, We cannot continue in this way, the government we now have, have made decisive decisions and whether you agree or not with the methods, it certainly is moving things along. I can see why Remainers are apprehensive about the future, We are moving into a new era for this country. "Charity begins at home" as the saying goes but the saying continues, "so says the world" We need to sort our own affairs and country before we can be of help and assistance to other countries. I am not anti- French, German, Italian etc, We all have something to offer one another but the "EU Commission " is no longer the mechanism to assist or enable it. There is an recent member country of the EU that is very close to my heart, it is booming , in part because of its membetship of the EU, money is flooding the country but what it is losing in the process is unbelievable.

Round and Round and Round we go, where are we going nobody knows !!!!!!

Indeed GG13, but it would help us to exchange the facts we do know if people stopped screeching at others.

Today 10:31 Nanniejc1 That post does nothing other than evidencing the truth of the thinking you suggest some people have of some leave voters.

Round and Round and Round we go, where are we going nobody knows !!!!!!

Scottish Court of sessions Judge will not grant an interim interdict but is going to pull the case forward to Tuesday when he can have the full hearing.

Sir John Major is asking the court if he may join the Gina Millar petition.

Seems to me that all you Remainers think that the rest of us who want to leave are thick & stupid.Sick of all the scaremongering from pompous people who think they know better than the rest of us ‘simple folk’!!!

trisher "The North is set to lose a huge amount of EU cash"

It is not EUs cash, they just decide where to invest "our money that we have given to them"

If you call your post today, 09:39 Gonegirl "proper" the word seems to have a different meaning for you than for me.

Leave EU referendum vote had over 17.4 million and no one is taking any notice of that it seems.

No way this petition will achieve anything.

But who knows seeing as the Remainers think if you get less votes than the winner but you add all the loser votes up the winner loses and the loser wins and if they shout enough, swear and call leavers names it will be so (in real life I mean not on Gransnet lol forum police take note) warped and undemocratic.

I have no idea why you would think I want that. It is an opinion.

And that was a perfectly "proper post"!

As regards the money which is supposedly going to be given to small businesses, where is it comng from? The North is set to lose a huge amount of EU cash and the government has promised we won't suffer (Ha Ha!!) Suddenly there's a Brexit money tree.!
Do Not Prorogue Petition has over 1.5 mill signatures
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Gone girl I did, unlike you, write a proper post. All you seem to be able to do is get angry when people don't tell you you're right. I have no idea how you voted and neither am I in the least bit interested in someone like you voting but it did appear, from this paragraph:

"Mind you, I don't think Boris has any intention of getting a deal anyway. He wants to leave with no deal, so he's probably laughing his socks off at all this. He will be quite happy for everyone to puff and blow up until the 31st."

That this is what you wanted.

*i hardley think that GN is representative of the whole electorate*
CityA.M conducted a poll in May 2016 which showed that 52% would vote leave.
I think that figure is pretty much the same as the whole electorate

Are you referring to Gnet poll just before the referendum, Petra?

You do realise, don't you that, as polls go, that one was not at all rigorous as most nationally quoted polls are as the 'sample' was entirely self selected. A proper poll has a sample which the pollster selects to be representative of all shades of opinion, not just those from a particular bubble.

I'd also point out that demographic changes mean that the electorate now is no longer the same as the electorate of 3 years ago.

Polling over the last year or so tells a different story. But just go on thinking that more people agree with you than disagree if it makes you happy...

You more like.

Rdiculous. And nasty. Yep. That just about sums you up.

If you don't care what I think (or even if you do) Gonegirl, could you stop swearing at me, please?

Can't we comment on here about what's happening without someone jumping in and trying to interpret stuff as our own wishes?

Rdiculous. And nasty.

For God's sake! Stop telling me what I want or don't want! I DON'T WANT A NO DEAL. I don't actually want out at all but it's got to happen.

I've told you this before. Not that I care a fl---- f--- what you think.

That is because they are lying Gonegirl (Fri 30-Aug-19 09:10:00). You cannot tell other countries you will go for a no-deal while your polls say only a third of the electorate back it and then expect the other countries to believe it.

The ERG (and you apparently) certainly want only a no-deal. The Liberals want only total remain as we are now (there must be a short form for that). They have both been the downfall of those in the centre who accepted that things have to change - particularly politically - and would have backed a good deal.

I doubt that even Boris knows what Boris wants.

Urmstongrann, in regard to your post @-09:08 today, whatever the government has (or has not carried out) in preparation for Brexit, it will be the overall medium and long term commercial scene that will ultimately decide what happen to many businesses in Britain.

Should businesses decide to relocate their centre of operations to the European Union or elsewhere in the world, then that ultimately will affect suppliers to those Buissneses and in that the overall living standards of very many who reside in the United Kindom.

I think they are all going to ruin any chance Boris has of scaring the EU into a deal. But then, they did the same with Theresa.

Mind you, I don't think Boris has any intention of getting a deal anyway. He wants to leave with no deal, so he's probably laughing his socks off at all this. He will be quite happy for everyone to puff and blow up until the 31st.

while those least likely to be able to change their circumstance will sustain the most loss.^

Grandad1943 hasn’t the government put money to one side to help small businesses? They have promised such assistance.

Also pulling together means (to me) not moaning and accepting a period of (some) shortages (not medicines before jura2 jumps in here about isotopes).

Plans are on going. There is more talking behind the scenes now with the E.U. (who said on here once that their negotiation team had disbanded and ‘there would be no one to talk to’ haha!).

In wartime, the country has a centrist economy where the government has very strong control over the means of production and transportation and division of what means are available.

In peacetime we live in a solely capitalist society were competition in all aspects of life and business are at the centre.

Brexit ( especially a Nno deal Brexit ) will increase the capitalist competition and if the economy declines then it will be the strongest that survive as paramount, while those least likely to be able to change their circumstance will sustain the most loss.

Pulling together in the above situation will not be an option.