Stop the Coup

"Protesters demand Boris Johnson 'stop the coup' as thousands march across UK against parliament shutdown"
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Fair enough.

I bet a pound to a penny those ' principled' demonstrators however feel that Corbyn et al taking over ' the Executive/Parliament' and installing a truly ' UNELECTED PRIME MINISTER' is not equally what they see as ' a coup'

They would be marching up and down the country ' calling for a coup'.

Hypocrisy.

In our parliamentary democracy the people elect MPs and the MPs chose the PM, so if Corbyn or anyone else can gain the confidence of more that half of the MPs, he or she becomes PM. That would not be an unelected PM nor would it be a dictatorship.

If this were to happen in the present circumstances, the new PM would only be supported to stop no deal brexit and then call a general election. That would be perfectly acceptable.

Completely agree.

The Archbishop of Canterbury has called for Remainers to “stop whingeing” and accept the result of the Brexit referendum.

The Most Rev Justin Welby said those who voted to stay in the EU must now “take seriously the fact that the majority voted Leave”, stating: “We may not like it, but that is democracy.”

You just lost your penny in my case , POGS!

A few days ago, the Archbishop of Canterbury was considering chairing a forum to heal divisions caused by Brexit. He doesn't seem to have grasped that telling people to stop whingeing isn't likely to heal anything.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49486371

Pogs
Ask that in the middle of winter not on a beautiful sunny summers day.

The Archbishop has got himself into an illogical position.

If you set an open forum or peoples' assembly to examine a difficult question, by hearing evidence and weighing up the arguments on both sides before coming to a conclusion and making recommendations, you cannot start by telling one side that whatever happens their point of view will never be upheld.

Errrmmm! Exactly!

I agree with you

Oh well, it was worth a punt.

I really am a bit baffled by the Archbishop of Canterbury's change of heart in just a few days:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/27/dont-interfere-with-brexit-archbishop-of-canterbury-justin-welby-told

Maybe the Brexiters who told him to keep his nose out of politics were right after all.

If Corbyn et al manage to get through an extension on 31/10/19, all Boris has to do is use the UKs veto as an extension will need the approval of all 28 States?

Out of interest do you.... think that Corbyn et al who would literally take over ' the executive/Parliament ' and install an ' Unelected Prime Minister ' would be a dictatorship?

Would you think that is a coup worth demonstrating against or would that be perfectly acceptable?

Exactly POGS. Remainers don't seem to understand the terms "coup" and "democracy" do they?

Utter hypocrites.

Apologies - I should have said MOST Remainers.

I know many who are fair and reasonable and they believe that we must leave the EU, and soon, as now the delays and uncertainty rather than the act of leaving is damaging the UK.

Day6 I voted leave, and totally against Corbyn taking over!!

Giving the potential for legislation to stop no deal next week, I think that those hoping to leave with a deal really ought to welcome it as it is much more likely for a deal to go through the House if no deal is off the table as many in the ERG and hard right would like to crash out, and if no deal is gone then they will go for a deal rather than lose Brexit altogether.

Day 6 seems to think that to be regarded as "fair and reasonable" people who voted to Remain, because they could see the damage that leaving would do to our country, now have to give in to the Leave Liars and bullies. That is neither fair nor reasonable.

WWMK2 A deal has always been preferable to no deal.

It just cannot keep being delayed as the uncertainty is not helping businesses.

Varian there are bullies and liars on both side of the political divide, something I find abhorrent.

It is the bullies and liars on the Leave side that have been calling all the shots ever since they cheated their way to a narrow victory in the fraudulent referendum three years ago.

Most of us in this country have had enough of them and their whole corrupt brexit project. It is time it was stopped for good.

There is a video doing the rounds of twitter/Facebook of a remain supporter actually saying that “those who voted leave should be put in the equivalent of Auschwitz and gassed”

Not all calm and polite in the remain camp!!!

varian Sun 01-Sep-19 14:20:45
In our parliamentary democracy the people elect MPs and the MPs chose the PM,
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The people vote for a political Party not for MP's to install an unelected Prime Minister from a party that lost a Ge eral Election.

Even if it were Ken Clark the people did not elect him, nor did the party.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 01-Sep-19 15:37:21

Giving the potential for legislation to stop no deal next week, I think that those hoping to leave with a deal really ought to welcome it as it is much more likely for a deal to go through the House if no deal is off the table as many in the ERG and hard right would like to crash out, and if no deal is gone then they will go for a deal rather than lose Brexit altogether.
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Had those wanting a No Deal exit from the EU voted for the Withdrawal Agreement they would have had their way.

The ERG never had ' the numbers' to stop the Withdrawal Agreement but the SNP, Labour, Lib Dems did not shoot the ERG down did they? They voted the same way.

Labour / Lib Dems / SNP et al are supposedly going to legislate next week to stop a ' NO Deal Brexit', with the help of the totally ' partisan' Speaker Bercow.

This group of politicians have voted against the Irish Back Stop by voting down the Withdrawal Agreement.

Barnier/EU say the Back Stop must stay.

Are they now going to show their true colour and agree with Withdrawal Agreement because it is ' them', not a Tory who negotiates a deal? It has been a game of political power after all.

What Deal will Corbyn negotiate? He has to get the Withdrawal Agreement passed before negotiations of trade arrangements will take place if Barnier /EU stick to their red line. ?

The parties involved in ' legislating for a No Deal' and spoke of a Government of Unity are no such thing, they are a sham! The only common denominator is No Deal but if they get that through Parliament what then?

They ALL have different objectives, Revoke Article 50, don't Revoke Article 50, Have a Second Referendum, don't have a Second Referendum, Negotiate a Deal, don't Negotiate a Deal, Respect the result of a second Referendum, don't Respect the Result of a Second Referendum.

It would be a ' Party of Disunity. ' There will be as much if not more squalid backroom deals done, more delay in knowing what will happen, more blaming each other politically.

Can anybody please tell me what will happen if and when Corbyn and Co get into power or Parliament legislates for a 'DEAL ONLY ' exit from the EU? What Deal do they want?

varian Sun 01-Sep-19 15:54:22

"It is the bullies and liars on the Leave side that have been calling all the shots ever since they cheated their way to a narrow victory in the fraudulent referendum three years ago-" --

If that is your opinion and that were the case the UK would have left the EU months ago.