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Will the web being woven, hold?

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Whitewavemark2 Mon 02-Sept-19 08:18:05

Cummings game plan seems to be on course.

The tiny majority will be rendered a minority at a stroke by Cummings threat to take the whip away from any Tory rebels.

Johnson has then scapegoats to blame for his failure to deliver a brexit deal, and an excuse to go for a GE.

Labour will then fall in with the game plan by holding a VONC and a GE looks a distinct possibility sometime in Oct.
Johnson will fight it as the people v the elite who failed to deliver the democratic vote. (Bannon writ large)

The U.K. will then crash out on Nov 1st. No attempt is being made by Cummings to get a deal and in any case his contact finishes on Oct 31st.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Sept-19 08:46:22

Are you on the side of the law breakers or law abiders?

Andrew Adonis
@Andrew_Adonis

The government used to be divided between soft Brexit & hard Brexit. Then between no deal & deal. Now it’s between law breakers & law abiders

How revolutions devour their children

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Sept-19 08:39:59

This is what the naive think
Matt Hancock
@MattHancock

The Conservative party has always been a broad church shaped by those within it. Gutted to see Amber leave - but hope other One Nation Tories will stay and fight for the values we share

This is what is actually happening

Philip Hammond
@PhilipHammondUK

Sorry Matt, I’m afraid the Conservative Party has been taken over by unelected advisors, entryists and usurpers who are trying to turn it from a broad church into an extreme right-wing faction. Sadly, it is not the party I joined.

Iam64 Mon 09-Sept-19 08:38:20

WWave, I enjoyed your comment at 21.15 yesterday. Billy Bragg as PM, good idea. (well a better idea than either BJ or JC sadly)
I keep reminding myself that Dominic Cummings isn't responsible for the mess we're in, it's his employer, Boris Johnson who makes the decisions. Mind you, we know that Mr Johnson seems unable to to stick anything, to make decisions that are better for his loved one's, colleagues or currently, the country. He's a charlatan and if he's being manipulated by someone with decidedly worrying personality traits - we truly are in trouble.
The DM reports that the terrible twosome have a Cunning Plan. Our PM is to obey the law by writing to Brussels to ask for an extension. Then, he'll send a second letter saying, sorry guys, can you ignore my first letter please. What could possibly go wrong?

lemongrove Sun 08-Sept-19 22:57:16

He probably meant go into meltdown about what he and Johnson are thinking of doing, so it must be something radical....but what??
Or it could just be an empty threat to keep people guessing.

growstuff Sun 08-Sept-19 22:53:21

I guess he must have meant something. Whatever it was doesn't sound very pleasant, as he was referring to the "melting" of human beings.

lemongrove Sun 08-Sept-19 22:49:41

Hardly!
I just found your post rather quaint at the time.

Labaik Sun 08-Sept-19 22:45:00

Do you keep a note of what I say. How flattering !!

lemongrove Sun 08-Sept-19 22:44:44

I have no idea about what the ‘melting’ means growstuff I find it perplexing as there isn’t much to be cooked up really (now) I would have thought.

lemongrove Sun 08-Sept-19 22:42:24

Are you the same Labaik who was pearl clutching about the ‘language of the gutter’ being used on GN just the other day?

GracesGranMK3 Sun 08-Sept-19 22:39:53

You will be punished Labaik. Lemongrove also has friends in high places. shock

growstuff Sun 08-Sept-19 22:38:43

So what do you think Cumming meant by his warning that Remainers will "melt"?

Labaik Sun 08-Sept-19 22:35:26

Oh for Christ sake, I can't listen to your crap any more lemon....

lemongrove Sun 08-Sept-19 22:28:07

Why is it alarming to watch Cummings walk in and out of Downing St.? What should he do in his capacity as chief advisor , wait round the back?
I am all agog as to what could possibly cause Remainer (MPs)
To melt, aren’t you?

GracesGranMK3 Sun 08-Sept-19 22:21:26

Business likes clarity though. Boris as leader is providing that.

You may think that UG but it is not what we are hearing from businesses.

Labaik Sun 08-Sept-19 22:18:27

'jura2 you sound more British than the British!'...what's that supposed to mean??

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 21:51:15

?

Mitch Benn ????
@MitchBenn
Apparently Dominic Cummings is warning that Remainers will “melt” when they see the next phase of his plan.
If it goes as well as the last phase, by this time next week we’ll have joined the Euro and Billy Bragg will be Prime Minister.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 21:43:09

ginny I reckon it’s the Russians - based on no evidence whatsoever, except he lived and worked there and is obsessed by Russia.

Ginny42 Sun 08-Sept-19 21:34:33

Sorry if this question has already been posed, but on what grounds can we charge criminals with breaking the law ever again if the PM flouts the law?

It's most alarming to watch Cummings walking in and out of No10. If Johnson allows himself to be manipulated by that man, he's less of a leader than a lot of people seem to believe. Only a weak person would allow an adviser to run the show. Who's behind Cummings?

lemongrove Sun 08-Sept-19 21:24:31

For heaven’s sake! hmm
EnglishRose was referring to WWM2 and not the last war.

Urmstongran Sun 08-Sept-19 21:17:48

jura2 you sound more British than the British!

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 20:59:55

I reckon Cummings is a Russian plant as he is well known to be a really keen on all things Russian, and worked and lived there for a few years.

He’s a sleeper they have woken to wreck destruction.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-19 20:53:50

One of big problems I’m reading is that our unwritten constitution cannot deal adequately with a government that breaks the law or convention.

I guess that is why we will need to constantly refer to the courts. When this is all over and Cummings etc have been put back into their boxes, I think it must be reconsidered with some urgency. Our democratic processes cannot be imperilled again.

Labaik Sun 08-Sept-19 20:51:30

I'm wondering how many people will remain in his Brexit cabinet. The S.O. said, on hearing that Amber Rudd had resigned 'they're spacing out their resignations so it stays newsworthy and has a greater effect'. I didn't believe him but it said as much on the news tonight. The people that will remain; Pritti Patel being one of them, are vile creatures.

jura2 Sun 08-Sept-19 20:37:17

So will you support him in progoguing our Sovereign Parliament and in breaking the Law? And that in the name of our Sovereign Democracy and getting our own Laws back?

Did you watch Andrew Marr this morning

www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/468847167304123/

Urmstongran Sun 08-Sept-19 20:32:55

Business likes clarity though. Boris as leader is providing that.

This moment, post referendum, was always going to arrive. It’s the fork in the road.

Boris is very popular (in the polls, though not so much here) and he picked his Brexit Cabinet to deliver the result of the referendum and ‘get this done’.