And democracy is not threatened by overturning and ignoring the votes of 17.5 million people?
Is democracy being by-passed in favour of the billionaires?
Why doesn't Starmer hold another referendum?
I am livid to see this and well done to Caroline Lucus for calling him out on it.
I wonder how his fans here regard this behaviour?
Imagine a female, possibly even an overweight one ( !) behaving in such a manner or a left winger or Diane Abbott or just about anybody really!! It is quite unbelievable.
And democracy is not threatened by overturning and ignoring the votes of 17.5 million people?
Overall the squabbling House deserves no respect - not in any quarter. The whole situation is shameful.
Anniel; so, as a lifelong Conservative, can you tell me how you feel about the appalling treatment of MP's such as Ken Clarke, Nicholas Soames etc. Because, as a lifelong Labour supporter [not a Marxist may I add] I have the utmost respect and admiration for those MP's who put country before party [and their careers] and I'm disgusted at their treatment. And also, can I ask you what your solution to the Irish problem is, because a lot of us 'lefties' are very concerned about what will happen to Ireland and we can't help but feel that those who support Johnson do not give a passing thought to that.
1.*Why would a female's weight be a relevant factor*.....the point I was making was had it been a female the reaction would have been different. The Mail , in particular is obsessed by the female form. Can you imagine the fun they would have had if a woman had spread herself out like that? It would have been almost as good as Diane Abbott having a can of fizz on her way home.
2. I am not, nor will ever be a Marxist.
3. What on earth has teacher training in the 70's got to do with anything?
Wow - so the 52% who voted Leave are all rich autocrats!
Anniel
The teacher training in the 1979’s produced some of the worst teachers and teaching theory this country has ever seen.
I too am not wealthy but also not poor and I’m a home owner with children and a garden. So, like you I am very very scared of a Corbyn government.
Removing no deal as an outcome if a deal isn’t struck is just bad business - we have once again handed all power to EU. I’d be up for another referendum but if we’re not having one then we’re still supposedly leaving - in which case we needed the threat of No Deal - Rebels have now ensured that no decent deal can possibly be made as they’ve removed trump card.
EU law states that after article 50 we have 2 years and then if there is no deal - it’s no deal. I’ve got to the stage now that I’d welcome them enforcing that and kicking us out!
Remainers are not 'sulky' because they lost a vote. This is not some name-calling playground game. This is the biggest threat to democracy and our way of life since the war. Have you ever wondered why Trump and Putin want to see Brexit? Why are the richest in favour? Is it because they care about ordinary people and their rights? In uniting 28 countries, Europe had some sway against the autocrats but Brexit undermines that.
I can see I am the only lifelong Conservative here - please tell me then what conservatism stands for and what there is in it that has attracted such loyalty from you. Does it bear any relationship now to when you first joined? Are you proud of the party's record?
Anniel what a lot of hasty assumptions you are making! Goodness, what a rant. Do you think you are the only thinking person on this site? It is not Marxist to dislike BJ or his approach to politics or to think that we were right to join the EC and it is a mistake to leave. You owe your fellow grans an apology! (Not sure how we are all so elderly but at school in the 70s BTW)
To me that just shows how Brexit is just a game in Parliament, and he probably got tired of it. It was a slap in the face for the country and just shows the amount of disrespect for the voters. We are now the a laughing stock of the world. As for JC I can't even look at him, he is vile through and through.
I can see I am the only lifelong Conservative here. You lot really hate so well. I had no idea so many old women were so left wing. I guess that Professor Ted Wragg succeeded with his left wing ideas spread in teacher training in the 70s.
If you are typical of the elderly in UK then Mr Corbyn and Mr McDonnell should romp in when the election takes place. I have no second home or no private garden they can tax. I am not a landlord renting property which any tenant can force me to sell to them, but I do own my own flat in London which will allow a labour govt. to tax the hell out of it when I die. Obviously, the vast majority of you support Marxism even though there is no democratic state where it has ever worked but we shall see and in the meantime I shall enjoy Mr Rees Moggx broadcasts on LBC and having spent my entire day watching Parliament yesterday, I too found most of them talk twaddle only to suit their political ends.
I await the backlash ( I grew up in wartime Liverpool in a Council house and was lucky enough to go to a grammar school, So I am not from the middle classes, but achieved my tertiary education through hard work in case you are interested, but doubt it! )
Spookygran - your response somewhat sneering too. Nothing “sulky” about trying to ensure a stable transition or protect the voice of Parliament. I thought some of the speeches were excellent, on all sides, and reflect where people are now. And I think BJ and Cummings are playing a clever game but sacking so many established and good politicians may backfire on them, and closing parliament so that carefully worked on new laws are now lost, not able to have time in this session, is so frustrating for many MPs.
Grannygrav y? i do like the reference to the flowers
Maybe JRM was fed up of hearing the same old drivel we've heard for 3 years from the remainers, sulky boys and girls going on and on forever because they lost a vote.Maybe he thought wake me up when you've got something new to say. They will do anything to keep us in Europe,they lost the vote ,get over it. I voted to stay but it didn't go my way so I accepted it and moved on.It might be disrespect but the remainers have lost lots of people's respect because they won't accept defeat.Without "No Deal"on the table we lose a bargaining chip,it doesn't mean we'll use it.
Sandelf ,if that is the case why weren't more people lounging about.? I did read in the Times that the number of "rebels" increased on Tuesday after R-Mogg's speech."At the start of the debate we had 19 confirmed confirmed supporters. By the time Jacob had sat down we were up to 21
Attitude does matter.
Well said! Some people will use any outlet they can to spread lies and hate.
What on Earth has Corbyn got to do with Rees Mogg's contempt of parliament
Because he displays equal contempt and rudeness when he sits chatting and passing notes like s silly schoolboy whenever opposition is speaking.
They are all disrespectful, immature and downright rude - both sides.
It’s about time we put an end to this cheering leering culture and got a parliament who could conduct themselves as adult professionals do in pretty much all other walks of life.
Iur parliamentary debates are a national embarrassment left, right and middle.
That isn't really the point. The fact is he is an arrogant man acting in an arrogant way.
Oh come on - those seats are vile and are built for short people. And at the moment they are D* near living in there. It was just a bit of journo malice.
I don’t like MPs or Members of the House of Lords lounging or sleeping whilst they are supposed to be working. As a teacher I certainly couldn’t have slept on the job! Having said that I think that there are much bigger problems facing the UK than JRM lounging in an unbecoming way in the HofC.
While I don’t have time for him, The acoustics in the H of C that there are speakers built into the backs of the benches so that members can actually hear what’s being said! HONESTLY. Also it’s not big enough to seat the number of members there are now, after the War Churchill said that the rebuild should be the same as the burnt out one.
My first thought wasn't that he was tired, but that it was an attention seeking ploy, a bit of showing off that is common amongst schoolchildren.
Tickingbird…..never!!!! If we leave we are destroying the UK and that includes the NHS and my grandchildrens future. This is good for those who are very wealthy.....to avoid taxes, there is nothing good for us.
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