How right we were

something Hilter (sic) would never have done as he was meticulous in his personal habits

Oh that’s reassuring then....

And firecracker trots out yet another cliché!

growstuff yes the parallels are obvious.

Although
Farage is too small a mentality to compare him to Hitler imo. He has the common touch but not much else. Funny little man.

I always imagine he smells of cigarettes and alcohol, and his breath ??something Hilter would never have done as he was meticulous in his personal habits.

You know the Remainers are losing the plot when Hitler and the Nazis get mentioned.

Now come on ladies. As Speaker Bercow would say ‘calm yourselves’.

Farage like Hitler?
?

It’s taken him 25 years battling to even get this far!!

On iplayer now

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00084tb

Yes, he did have about a third of the seats in the Reichstag. His influence was beginning to decline, so he forced an election. Hindenburg, who was paranoid about communists and socialists, thought he could control Hitler.

I don't think there's an obvious Hitler figure in the UK (yet), but most of the other players are there.

It's not so much that history will repeat itself (well, I hope not) but the parallels such as the influence of the super wealthy, their using of disenchanted working class, the use of violence, which politicians said was nothing to do with them, the manipulation of the law, weak leaders, who thought they could "use" the little Austrian corporal, rigged elections, the blind devotion of the masses, the demonization of "others" (socialists, Jews, gays, the unemployed, etc), fear of the bullies and so on …

Why risk it?

I haven't checked my facts but didn't Hitler come to power with about a third of the seats in the Bundestag.

There had been a great deal of jiggery-pokery by the previous Chancellor as I understand it; a very entitled man who had a plan but the plan fell apart and Herr Hitler stepped in.

I do not think Johnson is our worst nightmare. I believe it could be Farage. He is already running a party with no members to which he has claimed the leadership rather than be voted in, and with Tommy Robinson riding on his coat-tails is an even worse nightmare and a possible one now that the law and all the parliament stands for are being trashed.

Despite the accusations levelled against the 'Tory rebels' and the combined opposition parties - that they are defying the will of the people, trashing democracy as we know it, attempting to undermine a legitimate government, I am willing to stand up and say they do speak for me!
Who's willing to say that Robinson and co (or less controversially, this abomination of a government) does really speak for them?
Really represents what you want for your families? Really can be trusted to look after the NHS ? Really are telling the truth about the public services spending spree?
That they have turned away from all the lies and have had an epiphany which makes them truthful and honest? Bottom line - that you truly trust them?

maddyone; I understand your point about medicine. But it's a bit like that cartoon in which there are people in a bunker having bombs dropped on them and it questions how 50% of the people in it would feel if they knew the other 50% had voted for the war. If I'm honest, I would die for my children and would probably commit murder if I thought someone was going to harm them. To me, voting for/supporting something that could potentially kill is tantamount to actually harming someone.

Shouldn't the attorney general be saying something about what is happening at the moment? Or do they only wheel him out on high days and holidays..

Cummings btw that is

Someone else defying the law. Whatever people voted they must surely not support this. I can’t understand how he got a secure pass with his record of contempt etc.

Shahmir Sanni
@shahmiruk

A man that has been held in contempt of Parliament earlier this year is walking around Parliament today. And he’s still under investigation by the National Crime Agency. If I were an MP I would’ve ordered security to have him immediately removed.

Labaik, my mother was studying German in Munich in 1932 - and the stories she told me are so similar to what is happening now.

Unless Leavers say firmly 'these thugs do not speak or act for me - they have to take part responsibility.

The ordinary German voters in the early 1930s had absolutely no idea of what was to come if they voted for Hitler.

They were decent civilised people and not more antisemitic than other European nations, but a populist politician with a power of oratory talking about the "will of the people" somehow managed to gain power, and the rest, as we all know now, is history.

Well, my daughter has been a history teacher for 20 years and studied the Weimar Republic extensively and she's been saying for three years that the parallels are terrifying. But she obviously doesn't know as much as you.

Growstuff, I have read widely around the subject of Nazi Germany and I have also read many, many personal memoirs. I don’t think there is a comparison, apart from a few strange people like Tommy Robinson. We will have to agree to disagree.

But you’re the one jura2 who would put anyone who voted leave at the back of the queue for medicine/treatment? And who would be next? Everyone else who didn’t vote the same as winners in a general election?

Well I didn’t vote leave Jura, but in any case, he and his followers are not doing anything in my name. Can’t speak for others, but I guess they’ll feel the same. Including you.

Sorry about the name growstuff, I don’t really follow the man, I don’t like him. Just got the names mixed up.

So, will the Leavers on GN clearly and unequivocally say about these thugs 'NOT in my name' - or will they hide behind the fascist violence?

totally agree- and apologies to Tony, and you.

@ jura. I know, but the thought of Tony Robinson (who is a Labour supporter) and seems pretty harmless, being associated with those oafs was a bit much.

No, they probably don't represent her, but they are enforcers and UKIP and the rest are very happy to let them have their way.

Sorry to return to Nazi Germany, but Hitler used the SA to do his dirty work before purging them too.

growstuff- it is not his real name anyhow- so ?!?

Maddyone : 'Tony Robinson and his supporters do not represent the vast majority of leave voters. They do not represent my 91 year old mother.
To suggest it is so is disingenuous in the extreme.'

then they have to come out and very clearly say so- and not let them to the dirty work.