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The family firm.

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GabriellaG54 Thu 05-Sept-19 13:09:23

Photos of Princess Charlotte's first day at school with her brother Prince George, show us how well their mother, Catherine, has fitted into The Firm.
Delightfully normal and without any pretentious, she and her husband simply get on with life, neither courting nor studiously avoiding the publicity that goes with the job.
She looks wonderful in the pictures taken by the DM and the family is a fitting continuation of our monarchy.

merlotgran Mon 09-Sept-19 10:49:10

I'm not anti monarchy. I think the senior royals are doing a good job but the juniors shouldn't get away with hypocrisy. If they don't like the deal they should get jobs and support themselves.

I agree about the jobs created. It's an industry in itself.

trisher Mon 09-Sept-19 11:39:43

What a lot of rubbish. If they were just rich people they would still need staff. If we took back some of the properties they curently own we could open them to the public and put in a cafe-loads of jobs!

Bridgeit Mon 09-Sept-19 11:49:12

Well that’s what they do! ?

Anniebach Mon 09-Sept-19 11:56:59

Take back properties they own? Does this apply to all who have inherited or bought their homes?

The queen owns two properties, Anne, Edward and William own one . Charles owns three, he bought two and inherited one. He bought one in Wales because there is no official residence in Wales

Callistemon Mon 09-Sept-19 11:58:12

Go, Lottie, go!
I hope you make your presence felt at school and everywhere!

Anniebach Mon 09-Sept-19 11:59:09

Their official properties which they do not own are open to the public.

maddyone Mon 09-Sept-19 12:09:54

‘Took back their properties.....’

How would that be legally possible? What a ridiculous and immoral suggestion.

Obviously state owned properties would be different, but surely the president would need those.

pinkquartz Mon 09-Sept-19 12:39:02

trisher
I am with you. I would also like to cancel our obsession with the monarchy.
I think it is time to dismantle their lives to being somewhat closer to them actually working and living more like other people.

Anniebach Mon 09-Sept-19 12:50:57

pinkquartz. You believe we should take peoples homes from them ?

Anniebach Mon 09-Sept-19 12:57:45

Which other people do you want them to be live like ?

Grany Mon 09-Sept-19 13:10:05

I agree with you trisher and pinkquartz

The royals have grand houses money given them travel free. They have the prestige of being Royal, best of everything expensive clothes. People bowing to you.

Agree they should be more like other people. I am not wasting my time talking anymore about them. The family firm they dismantled. I don't care who replaces them one family should not have so much.

Anniebach Mon 09-Sept-19 13:15:42

If you don’t care who replaces them why replace them ?

eazybee Mon 09-Sept-19 13:49:30

I think the royal family's lifetime and lifestyle, as it is now, is limited, but by how much I have no idea. Most of the senior family, that is the Queen, Prince Philip, Prince Charles and Camilla, Princess Anne, the Earl and Countess of Wessex, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their respective families all realise this and behave accordingly. The Yorks, all four of them, are disasters, and it seems as though Prince Harry, since his marriage, is also lacking in understanding.

There seem to be rifts developing between the Sussexes, the royal family and the press. Their snub of a visit to Balmoral, whilst relatively unimportant, received mild adverse comment; Meghan responded instantly with an unplanned trip to America, leaving her four month old baby. That to me suggests fingers up to the establishment, and also her Save the Planet stance.

If she wishes to be viewed as an independent woman then she must also live independent of the Privy Purse.

annep1 Mon 09-Sept-19 13:56:12

Just popped in for a minute to see how this is going.
pinkquartz I'm with you.
Off again.?

merlotgran Mon 09-Sept-19 14:01:12

Is Meghan back home yet?

Maybe she's flounced? grin

Anniebach Mon 09-Sept-19 14:03:59

Surely she isn’t stuck in America because of the British Airways strike ?

merlotgran Mon 09-Sept-19 14:06:07

Ah. Now there's an excuse for a private jet. hmm

Eloethan Mon 09-Sept-19 14:31:59

My understanding is that the Civil List was replaced by the Sovereign Grant which comprises 25% of surplus revenue from the Crown Estate (a publicly-owned portfolio). The proceeds of this in the year 2017'2018 was £76.1 million. On top of this, income from The Duchy of Lancaster and the Duchy of Cornwall (despite, in name, belonging to the nation) goes directly to the queen or Charles respectively - this amounts to tens of millions of pounds every year.

Posters have said that the royal residences and other properties owned by the royals are open to the public. It is true, they are but for limited periods, with very limited access and at a price - in some cases, a fairly substantial price:

Buckingham Palace - open for 10 weeks in summer and selected dates in winter and spring. In any event, access is limited to a few areas. Cost £25 per person (or, if state rooms, queen's gallery and royal mews are included £45 per person)

Kensington Palace - only state rooms open to the public _ £17.50 per person

Balmoral Castle - April to August only, £12.00 per person

Clarence House - only one month in the summer - no access this year. New prices to be advised for 2020.

Sandringham - open April to October. £17.50 per person.

How was the monarchy originally established and by what means did these families establish they were of inherently superior status and therefore entitled to rule? We know that royal families across the world are ordinary human beings who do not have "blue blood" - at one time it was thought they were ordained by God to rule over nations but I don't think many people believe this now. I would suggest that they acquired their wealth and status not through hard work and intelligence but by means of force - and they retained it through force and corrupt practices. There is plenty of evidence to substantiate the sort of ruthless brutality and devious scheming that monarchs used to maintain their positions.

The very limited and often costly access to royal properties is intended as a measure to convince people that they have some sort of ownership in them. But it is a nonsense.

Harry and Meghan have proved a useful scapegoat for this family. Charles has pontificated for years about saving the environment and wildlife while at the same time doing nothing whatsoever himself to further such aspirations. His father has in the past called for population control - though not apparently for himself or his own family. So hypocrisy is not new to the royal family but has never created the deluge of criticism that Harry and Meghan are now experiencing.

Anniebach Mon 09-Sept-19 14:45:25

Should living quarters in KP be open to the public?

Eloethan do tell, what ruthless brutality and devious scheming is the queen guilty of?

Grandma70s Mon 09-Sept-19 15:05:12

I think I looked pretty good when I took my small children to school. I was young enough to look good without a lot of effort. I didn’t ‘drop them off’. We walked. It took about 15 to 20 minutes. Not a rush. Bags were packed the night before. They had school meals, so there was no problem preparing packed lunches. I just don’t recognise these stories of last minute rushing.

As soon as they were old enough, they were responsible for getting to school on time themselves. It was their fault, not mine, if they were late. This took a lot of hassle out of the later school years!

I realise this topic has moved on, but I wanted to put my point of view.

Bridgeit Mon 09-Sept-19 15:25:56

Henry the 8th broke away from the Pope & the Vatican because he wanted to divorce & remarry .
He established himself as the Head of the Church of England as well as being King.
Changed whatever he wanted to, to suit himself.

Bridgeit Mon 09-Sept-19 15:30:47

The rest is History ( as they say?)

Anniebach Mon 09-Sept-19 15:32:30

Yes history

Bridgeit Mon 09-Sept-19 15:39:38

We are all a product of our ancestors & what they did or didn’t, could or couldn’t do , the common denominator being the sexual act of procreation, which obviously they all did do??

trisher Mon 09-Sept-19 16:07:01

Can anyone really claim that the RF need all these residences? I'd never heard of some of them!
www.housebeautiful.com/lifestyle/g21562488/royal-family-homes/