The family firm.

‘Megan doesn’t understand ‘ .

They have been a couple for three years, she has seen how the rest of the family respect the queen and how ‘the family work’,

She is nearly 40, an intelligent woman, she doesn’t understand?

She admired Diana , I think she sees herself as another Diana
and Harry wants her to be a Diana.

Yes Annie, you have made good points. Meghan should have understood, not least from Harry. He should have made sure she understood, but I’m still not sure she does.
If however, Meghan does understand, then sadly it only makes her behaviour all the worse.

It makes no sense that she would want to be like Diana.
Surely the opposite would be more logical.

The opposite ? like Kate ?

Diana loved the world stage as does Megan

Well I haven’t seen MM emulating Diana, she did her own thing, was happy & confident working the crowds.
Meghan is accused of hanging onto Harry.

I don’t know whether Meghan wants to be like Diana or not, but I don’t think she is like Diana.
Diana was a nineteen year old, not very worldly, and inexperienced young woman when she married Charles. She would have had some understanding of the monarchy, but probably she expected somewhat more support than she received, and it’s probably fair comment that she expected her husband to be faithful. She didn’t really have a mother to guide her, and her doting father died shortly after her marriage.
Meghan however, is a mature woman, who has had a previous marriage and another relationship which included a live in lover. She had worked in a cut throat industry which probably encourages people to think they are more important than they are. She moved in the world of celebrity. She was already having very little to do with her father, who paid for her expensive education. She deliberately didn’t introduce Harry to her father.
Two very different women. Diana did play to the world’s stage, but that was later on. Meghan appears to be playing to the world stage already. Thank goodness Kate is married to William and not Meghan.

I am always baffled that generally speaking so many people seem to be unaware that Charles & Diana’s families have been intertwined for years & years, along with a whole section of society who were & are all known to each other .

Diana lived in Sandringham until her father inherited his title.

The Queen is Godmother to Diana’s brother, she was a guest at the wedding of Diana’s parents. Diana’s maternal grandmother was lady in waiting to the queen mother.

The Spencers holidayed at Balmoral. Diana’s sister had been in a relationship with Charles. Diana’s brother in law was private secretary to the Queen.

No one could have known more about the royal family than Diana .
I cannot agree with ‘her doting father ‘, he was the most guilty
in my opinion.

Oh you’re completely correct Bridgeit, the two families were intertwined for years. Diana was regarded as suitable because she was from the upper class. Personally though, I think she was fed to the lions. It wouldn’t have been so bad if Charles had been faithful, or if he had been allowed to marry Camilla, who was regarded as unsuitable, and as they knew this, she went off and married someone else. A very sad story all ways round.

Meghan is not the same as this though. Harry has been allowed to marry his choice, even though in times gone by, she would have been regarded as unsuitable. Unfortunately, if she doesn’t change her ways, it will become very obvious that she was an unsuitable choice.

I don’t believe the story that Charles wasn’t allowed to marry
Camilla, she married Parker Bowles in 1973, Charles was then
24, had started his naval career . They dated, he dated many,
he joined the armed forces when he was about 21. I doubt he wanted to marry that young.

I thought Camilla was regarded as unsuitable because she was Catholic and not a virgin.

How would it be known she wasn’t a virgin ?

Strange if the Windsors were against her that Anne, the Queen Mother and Princess Margaret were guests at her wedding

Maybe that’s right Annie, I do believe that Charles didn’t want to marry so young, maybe Camilla didn’t want to wait for marriage, like Kate was prepared to do. Anyway, she upped and married, as you say Annie, when Charles was away in the Navy. It’s a sad story all ways round really. I’m pleased Charles is finally happy with the woman he loves.

trisher you said "They are simply rich people who live their lives the way rich people do. Why on earth anyone thinks they can somehow approve or disapprove of how they behave I don't understand"

So are you saying that us tax payers have no right to critic our betters? We should know our place?
That is how you are coming across.

They are not my betters

They are not my betters either.

I simply believe that, on the whole, a monarchy is better than a republic. The queen has represented us on the world stage magnificently, and I think that both Charles and William will be good kings. It’s strange isn’t it, the ‘spare’ seems to be unlikely to represent us well, by that I mean both Princess Margaret and Prince Harry. It would have been unfortunate in the extreme if Prince Andrew had ever managed to sit on the throne. Prince Anne would have been a much better monarch.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7441903/Duchess-Sussex-crowned-Britains-social-climber-society-magazine-Tatler.html

So Britain's top social climber is going to' drag the royal family into the 21st century?'

pinkquartz what I am saying is that people can whinge and whine, and like this one and dislike that one, but in the long run it makes absolutely no difference to that family. They will continue to behave like all other rich people. In fact all the comments are just ways of agreeing in principle to the concept of monarchy, because you imagine in some way that they are important in everyday life, and that your approval or disapproval will in some way change them. It won't, why should it? I'd get rid of the lot of them. I really don't care what any of them do.

What exactly is "GOOD KING"maddyone ? Someone who can shake hands and smile at the same time ...or someone who has no problem living off the backs of the peasants ..enjoying her life of privilege while they struggle and use foodbanks .

Before the usual suspect jumps in with me being against folk who are rich..that is not the case ..just people who are putting their hands out for other peoples cash while they do beggar all to earn it .When Lizzie dies it has to end.Their lining up the parasites for the next century already ,hereditary privilege is wrong .I hear Trump says his wee band of crooks and chancers are Americas new Dynasty

How do rich people behave ? Should we say of anyone unemployed ‘they behave like all unemployed?

Does a family living on a housing estate behave like all people
on a housing estate behave ?

No we do not, well I don’t.

Paddyann, it’s precisely because of such situations as Trump in America that I prefer a monarchy. They are expensive, but they do bring a lot of tourism into the UK. Plus they are exceedingly rich in their own right, so their lavish lifestyle is not entirely funded by us. If you read back on some of my other posts on this thread you will see that whilst I believe the royals have enormous costs, benefits and privileges, it comes with disadvantages, a loss of privacy, and many restrictions and obligations.
Anyway, a good king or queen, in my humble opinion, is one who is dutiful, discreet, dignified, respectful of their own position, mindful of frivolous expense, represents the UK on the world stage with humility and respect, and who knows how to keep their opinions to themselves. As soon as a monarch ascends the throne these apply. This is what I think a good monarch should be. Look at the queen and you will see all theses attributes and more represented in her. She is far preferable to any president.
Would you prefer BJ or JC?

I have asked of those who want a president, who would you
choose ?

I am not a Royalist in the sense of wanting to read / watch everything they do etc.
But it does make me a bit cross that some folk cannot see beyond the photo shoots, media hysteria & realise that the existence of the RF, provides employment & an entire industry from horticulture to cleaning.
Would those who who are not in favour of them care about all those who would loose their jobs ?

Actually Bridgeit, very, very good points. I hadn’t thought of that, but I shall remember. There must be thousands of jobs provided by the monarchy across the various homes, estates, etc. Mind you, a president would also provide employment, but not so many I think.