Gina Miller case thrown out bet that's wiped the smile off her smug face.

Grandad My understanding is that the courts don't make political decisions. That's why Miller's case was lost.

Nevertheless, any government must uphold constitutional law. If it doesn't, we give free rein for a government to do as it pleases. Miller's case was that the government was breaking constitutional law. Obviously, the judges disagreed.

should be resolved in that Parliament and only taken beyond that forum if standing legislation has clearly been infringed

I agree Granddad. How many times has Gina Miller raced off to court to stop something she dislikes?

However, it appears Remainer MPs can manipulate proceedings. I refer to the Cooper-Letwin bill.

It would seem any PM is almost powerless. Look at the games are going on in parliament to overturn the referendum result. No wonder people have little faith in MPs. That despair has turned to public anger.

I also believe that the British courts should not be in involved in the Brexit arguments.

I'm surprised at you, Grandad. The legal cases are to do with upholding the British Constitution, in which Parliament (the legislature) is sovereign, not the Executive (the Ministers of the Crown). They are not being asked to be involved in the Brexit arguments.

Don't forget, the Miller case, and the one earlier this week, are both going to appeal; where the judges' rulings may well be overturned.

Indeed, as Gina Miller says, this is way beyond Brexit- but about how Parliament works- now and in the future.

That despair has turned to public anger.

The only public anger I've seen, Day6 is huge protests about the government's abuse of power.

Where are the thousands of people gathering outside Parliament, Downing Street and all over the UK to protest about delays to Brexit?

I knew exactly who had started this thread just from the goading title. Enough said!

Absolutely, jura.

Gloating is not a good look. Can backfire. Maybe schadenfreude will be in short supply come no deal.

MaizieD, in regard to your post @-18:01 today, my concern is that by having the courts give rulings in this Brexit crisis, it "appears to many" that the judiciary are taking up political positions.

The above is not obviously realistic fact, but how things are perceived is as important in the present political atmosphere in Britain as what is actual truth.

So much that was good in Britain has already been lost in this rediculas Brexit argument that I am hoping that when it all eventually ends we will at least have a judiciary system that the public still has confidence in.

However, I very much appreciate the substance of your post

That's because the media has spun it like that. The courts did not take up a political position.

The day that the government is no longer subject to the laws of the land will be a very sad day for the country. The law is an essential part of the UK's unwritten constitution. The government must never be allowed to ride roughshod all over it.

I'm very sorry if people don't understand that - maybe it's time that British Constitution became an essential subject in the school curriculum and those who have left school should somehow play catch up.

The case has been deemed to be strong enough to go directly up to the Supreme Court

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gina-millers-bid-to-stop-prorogation-heads-to-supreme-court-8kc8mqjkq

She was on the tv being interviewed today, No, she's still smug.

The title surprised me as I always think how personable she looks. She seems to be efficient.

She explains it really well- not smug at all, just clear and totally right too:

www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/643033969519944/

Interesting how the opinions about how Gina Miller looks follow the views on Brexit of the posters.

Remind me - who voted for Gina Miller? In what election?

On the contrary Dinhamo. I think she’s a very nice looking woman. She is by all accounts clever, personable and well-meaning.
But that doesn’t unfortunately preclude her also behaving in an incredibly entitled way. She’s a very rich, successful woman who was quickly able to amass financial backing from the City from other people who basically believe that because they are rich, then their views are more valid than anyone else’s.

Where are the thousands of people gathering outside Parliament, Downing Street and all over the UK to protest about delays to Brexit?

I think you'll find the people outside Parliament are a mixed bunch. And anyway, most people usually stay quiet until it's time to vote and then they make their voice heard. They are currently waiting for the result of the referendum to be honoured, and if it is not then all hell will break loose.

sarahcyn, what is the relevance of your comment ???

What a nasty thing to say! Nasty to support it too. Is it any wonder some of us have little respect for the opinions of such unpleasant people?

It would be easy to start the same thread in a respectful tone.

It's sometimes difficult to know what comment people are referring to as the site doesn't allow you to respond to a comment. It would be helpful if the original comment was inserted into the post.

I've only just seen this thread. The title is absolutely appalling. Why has it been allowed?

sarah presumably in the same election they voted for PM Dominic Cummings

It would be helpful if the original comment was inserted into the post.

You only have to copy and paste the comment, or part of it, into your response (with a bit of formatting), Chestnut and/or mention the poster by name. then it will be clear what you are responding to.