Government watch

MaizieD in regard to post @-13:17 today, I believe that should Johnson ignore the legislation that Parliament has laid down in terms of Britain leaving Europe on October 31st, then this nation would enter the greatest legal, political and constitutional crisis it has faced since the 1640s.

It just doesn't bear thinking about.

Exactly MOnica. You can almost see it now, can't you? He won't last long, so will go back to the chat show circuit and be paid mega-bucks for joking about what a lark it was to cause such havoc. Sadly, people will still think he's funny.

I see that Liz Truss has apologised for accidentally and illegally selling arms to Saudi Arabia

What on earth can you say??

Who on earth thought this shower were suitable to be in government.

Parliament may have agreed,*Grandad*, but the Bulk has declared that he intends to ignore the law. If he does so, by the time he can be brought to book (by way of a court case, presumably) Oct 31st will have come and gone and we'll be out.

.... and never had a job which he couldn't lie and blag his way out of the inevitable mess.

He doesn't have a clue. It's easy to forget that Johnson has never had a job which requires negotiation and compromise.

The only 'negotiations' that has taken place, has been a statement from Johnson 'we want the backstop removed' ...
this is NOT negotiating. And he also knew perfectly well that this could never happen. Firstly because it would be EU at risk of tons of unsafe goods, meat and other products entering the EU via the NI border. SEcondly because it threatens a Member State, and thirdly because it threatens the Good Friday Agreement.

NO alternative, working propositions have been provided, NONE whatsoever. How can that be called 'negotiating'?

I'm a bit confused about what Johnson and his followers expect from the EU. The three main elements of the withdrawal agreement (deal) are Ireland, citizens' rights and the "divorce bill".

There is no solution to Ireland, citizens' rights shouldn't be that difficult to sort out and the "divorce bill" will almost certainly go to court.

If it's not sorted by 31st October, it will all drag on until there IS an agreement. Meanwhile, the UK will have to deal with the EU on WTO tariffs and will become increasingly untrustworthy.

The UK is the one in a very weak position and was responsible for creating the mess in the first place.

The 27 other EU countries will just get on with things. What do people expect it to do?

From our remain friend, Jason:

*Remember when Merkel said Boris had 30 days to provide some written proposals for negotiation? And Boris said it would be done easily within that time?

That 30 days ends this Friday and the UK have provided absolutely NOTHING in writing to negotiate. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero.*

MaizieD, in regard to your post @-09:27 today, the problem for our incredible hulk would be that Parliament has decreed that Britain cannot leave the EU on October 31st unless there is a deal acceptable to that body.

Johnson was asked several times in his BBC interview yesterday how he intended to get around that problem being that he insists that the UK will leave on that date, and he could not answer that conundrum.

So, what was the point of setting up and attending those meetings seeing as he had nothing new to bring forward?

Oh, come on, Grandad. He's doing it to satisfy his hard of thinking followers that he is doing his utmost to get a better 'deal' from the EU. Which it will do (i.e. satisfy them) because they don't see past the headlines.

He's also carefully building a narrative that will blame the EU for his failure to get a new deal (which he has little intention of doing) when we crash out on 31st October. The resulting chaos can then be blamed on the evil EU.

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Andrew Adonis
@Andrew_Adonis
Apparently there is another tussle going on with the Queen about the state opening of parliament on 16 October. Johnson wants to wear the imperial state crown

Apologies my post above should read "and in reality, is far from form doing."

Don't know were the "position* appeared from.?

Johnson stated following his meetings with EU leaders that he did not expect any "breakthrough" to be achieved at those meetings yesterday.

So, what was the point of setting up and attending those meetings seeing as he had nothing new to bring forward?

The European Union had made its position very clear prior to the meetings. That is, it is for Britain to set out changes to the withdrawal agreement that is acceptable to the EU for a deal to be concluded.

That Britain has not done, position and in reality, is far from form doing.

So it now seems that we have a British Prime Minister, who having no time to negotiate a WA is therefore actively considering breaking the law.

He needs to be removed.

ditto WW2.
I haven't got words .......
Well I have but wouldn't dare print them.

I wasn’t aware that the Incredible Hulk ran away from people shouting at him.

What an utter prat.

Johnson didn’t appear as he didn’t want to face protesters.

He isn’t doing or appearing very well is he.

A real loser in every sense of the word.

Oh dear

David Allen Green
@davidallengreen

Loss of parliamentary majority

Loss of control of Commons business

Six parliamentary defeats out of six

Defeat in the Scottish appeal court

And now humiliated by Luxembourg - not France or Germany, but Luxembourg

This is extraordinary

Apparently Johnson is thinking of slapping in another prorogue when the current one ends.

Everything crossed for the court decision, but I won’t be holding my breath.

This country’s democracy is going to the dogs.

Boris Johnson, received a frosty welcome from protesters as he arrived for talks with Luxembourg’s prime minister, Xavier Bettel. A large crowd jeered and chanted: ‘Tell the truth, stop the coup,’ as Johnson shook hands with Bettel

Later, Bettel appeared alone at the press conference. He told reporters that the British government still had not produced any revised proposal in writing. Boris Johnson did not appear to face the press.

It's Eton, not Eaton!

I wonder this as well

Richard Thompson #FBPE #facciamorete
@RichardPTh
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Can someone solve this riddle for me? Working class ppl shaking the hand of and taking selfies with an Eaton & Oxford educated, pompous, arrogant, spoiled, self serving liar who doesn’t give a flying fuck for them and lives in a completely parallel world?

Andrew Adonis
@Andrew_Adonis

I’m not saying that it would be a good idea for Johnson to resign for lying to the Queen before he degrades public life to a level not seen since the Prince Regent, but people up & down the country are saying it, particularly in Balmoral. And I do think they have a point

Whitewave We do actually pay tax on anything bought abroad. Duty free and tax free are different. It's just that in some countries the tax is lower than in the UK.

There will almost be limits on the amount of duty free goods one can buy, as there were in the past. Frankly, I think a couple of pounds off a bottle of whisky or a packet of fags isn't much compensation for everything else we're about to lose.