More people want to leave EU, even Remainers, than before.

Chestnut, no matter what we were told or understood, the fact of the matter is that it was not a legally binding referendum:

*A UK referendum will only have the force of law if the Act setting it up says so. In practical terms this would mean someone would be able to go to court to make the government implement the result. The Alternative Vote referendum in 2011, for example, was legally binding in this way.

Otherwise, as the High Court put it on 3 November:

“a referendum on any topic can only be advisory for the lawmakers in Parliament”.*

So, why not run it again? Proper rules in force, not back of a fag packet stuff like last time. A General Election will solve nothing, and we will still be where we are now, and I agree that we need to get this sorted, life needs to go on, and money is being spent at an eye watering rate with no tangible result.

Agree 100% GillT57

What have been the benefits of EU membership that saw
a' leave' majority.

I don't understand your question *Sarahellenwitney".

Oh dear fake I’m afraid.

You.gov. Dated 22August

Remain 46%

Leave 42%

If someone (for whatever motive) says something untrue in a TV interview, or drafts a leaflet that gives a false impression, does that become more legal than a law which says the opposite? This country is not governed by what is in leaflets, or by what a habitual liar says in the media, it is governed by the wording of laws and by their interpretation by an independent judiciary.

I agree with the OP that "It seems the tide may be turning for Brexit", but not the way she has been informed by the Daily Express.

That is wishful thinking on their part,

The tide is turning because people are appalled by the behaviour of our so called PM brexit buffoon Boris Johnson and some are quite worried about the non disclosure of the Yellowhammer documents which Andrea Ledsom says cannot be published because they could frighten people.

Peolpe who still recite stupid mantras like "here we go WTO, bring it on" really really need to be given the facts that will certainly frighten them and make them think again.

I have just read operation yellow hammer. Will try and find link.

It has just been published. It is everywhere. Risk to water supply is low, not non existant, but low. And obviously lots of much bigger risks in major areas of day to day life. I think we are out of our minds to take our chances with a no deal brexit. Yes, I know we have been through worse but not deliberately.

Can't copy link as on phone rather than laptop but if you Google it there it is. Scary but predictable. Perhaps we remoaners should run a book on who will be first to cry 'Project Fear'.

gill I’ve started a thread with a link

Thanks ww

It appears that not is all well in the land of unicorns.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7452187/Boris-Johnson-launches-extraordinary-attack-not-fit-proper-Nigel-Farage.html

The biggest problem remains the fact that they did not require a meaningful majority before they implemented the referendum. If they had asked for 60/40 or even better 70/30 the result would have been clear cut. As it is the numbers of remainers and leavers were almost equal and getting them to agree on anything has proved pretty much impossible.

When I read the initial post and realised you were quoting from the express I switched off.

I don't know any Remainers who want to leave the EU. Many people say they just want things sorted and this has been misinterpreted as we want to leave. They haven't been asked if they would like it sorted by the revocation of Article 50.

Revokation is the only way to stop this brexit nonsense.

That needs to be explained in words of one syllable to anyone who thinks that " just get it done" would mean the end, rather than just the beginning of this brexit nonsense.

I've been in the car quite a lot today and had the radio switched on. Every single current affairs/news programme had leavers in vox pop interviewers saying they wanted to get it over with/the government had messed up etc etc. Bias or what?

Angela Merkel thinks a deal can be done. I hope so, then we can just get on with it and Leave.

That’s if the HoC vote for it.

I won’t be holding my breath.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf

Someone on
Mumsnet posted it

Remain Would Win 55-45 In Second Referendum, Poll Shows

www.lbc.co.uk/news/remain-55-45-second-referendum-brexit-poll/

This was a few weeks ago, but I think the margin would be greater now.

I wonder why the quitters don't want a public vote?

Because we’ve had a public vote!

Highly unlikely there will be another one.

If a referendum is a once in a lifetime decision why did we have one in 2016 when we had already had one in many people’s lifetime in 1975?

Here is labour MP @Meg_HillierMP explaining how now many labour leave voters in areas such as the North East are now understanding more about the ramifications of Brexit and they are changing their minds and are #RemainerNow. Indeed.

twitter.com/RemainerNow/status/1172594231157907456?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet