More people want to leave EU, even Remainers, than before.

So, why not run it again? Proper rules in force, not back of a fag packet stuff like last time. A General Election will solve nothing, and we will still be where we are now, and I agree that we need to get this sorted, life needs to go on, and money is being spent at an eye watering rate with no tangible result.

Chestnut, no matter what we were told or understood, the fact of the matter is that it was not a legally binding referendum:

*A UK referendum will only have the force of law if the Act setting it up says so. In practical terms this would mean someone would be able to go to court to make the government implement the result. The Alternative Vote referendum in 2011, for example, was legally binding in this way.

Otherwise, as the High Court put it on 3 November:

“a referendum on any topic can only be advisory for the lawmakers in Parliament”.*

True Chestnut ( remainers cannot accept that decision)
Either in Parliament, in the country and on social media.
Although, we shouldn’t tar all remainers with the same brush, as many do accept the democratic vote, and others just want to get on with it.

if you are so confident that you voted for the best result for your family and for the country in general, as I did, then you should be happy for a re-run?

Everyone in the country was told in the 2016 pro-remain Referedum Leaflet that the Referendum is a once in a generation decision and that the Government will implement what you decide.

We decided and we voted. But Remainers cannot accept that decision.

And me humptydumpty as a remainer, I would accept the result of another referendum if there was a minimum percentage turnout and a significant margin between the votes. It strikes me that remain voters are happy to accept the result of another fair vote, but the brexit supporters are very vociferous in demanding that we leave now......could it be be because they know they will not get the result they want, or is it because they are beginning to realise they have been misled, lied to, and desperately want to get this fraudulent result over the line before even more people realise just who the winners and losers will be? Surely, if you are so confident that you voted for the best result for your family and for the country in general, as I did, then you should be happy for a re-run?

No, a single legally-binding referendum (unlike the last one, which was advisory) with a mimimum% turnout and % margin between the highest vote and the second-highest vote would be enough for me...

I am sufficiently confident in the outcome of a second referendum to support our having one. I have the feeling that many Leave supporters do not support a second referendum because they know full well how it will go!

As a Leave supporter I am absolutely certain leave would win! However, how many referendum do you want? Do we have to keep voting until you get the result you want?

Something went wrong there. I meant that I don't disagree that a referendum would be a good thing. That is why I asked if the OP's assertion was based on a referendum I had missed.

*When was the second referendum?

Soon hopefully. We reaffirm democracy every four years by having an election - surprise surprise, people change their minds. We are coming up on four years, time to reaffirm democracy and see whether people still want to stay or leave.
THAT'S true democracy.*

I couldn't agree more .

The votes cast in a second referendum, now that there has been a great deal more information and discussion, would give a far more accurate picture of "what the people want". That is why it is not likely to happen!

The percentages (allowing for rounding) were

pro-leave 39.3%
pro-remain 44.1%

(leaving out the other parties, not sure where to put them!)

Another example of misinformation in chestnut's post?

Agreed, Amagran, as the EU election votes suggest!

Remain, remain, remain. BJ, Rees Mogg and Cummings v. the EU?? It's a no-brainer!

I am sufficiently confident in the outcome of a second referendum to support our having one. I have the feeling that many Leave supporters do not support a second referendum because they know full well how it will go!

Actually chestnut

if you add together votes for the brexit party and for the Conservatives (assuming that represents the Leave vote), the toal no. of votes was 6,761,342

combining votes for LibDem Labour and Green the total was 8,615,874

so in fact the (principally) remain parties got more votes than the (principally) leave parties

Remainers keep quoting polls in an attempt to prove that most people have changed their minds about leaving and want to remain. I don't trust polls.......I trust votes.

Only 16 weeks ago people voted overwhelmingly for the Brexit Party and turned the map blue in the European Elections. This has been the only recent opportunity for people to vote and they made it very clear what they wanted. To leave! This was a message to the MPs that they were fed up with the arguing and to just get us out.

Remainers are entitled to their individual opinions but the majority have made it very clear they want to leave and that is democracy, whether you like it or not.

Every remainder I know is as committed as ever
I will NEVER change my mind even if it happens and I have to accept that a TINY proportion of the UK population 17.000.000 have made a disastrous mistake for the rest of the 66,000,000 I will still never forget what they have done to my grandchildren’s lives

However, they will have to be more honest about declaring tax, if the UK is still in the EU in January 2020.

I don't suppose there could possibly be any connection.

newnanny I think many people are getting sick of MP's who are supposed to represent their constituencies

What about those constituencies that voted to remain? Does their MP honour their wishes, or the wishes of a different constituency that voted leave? You really can't have it that only leave constituencies have a right of representation.

I wouldn't let Farage help me carry my shopping bags.

The last 66 polls show a consistent trend, which is that more people are now in favour of Remain.

It would appear that the Express and Gransnetters' friends and neighbours are in the minority.

Farage the man who has never won a fptp election - who’s he trying to “help”?Himself.

Nigel Farages “offer of help”, that’s a poisoned chalice with barbed wire strings attached if ever I heard one. Who paid for the pages of newspaper ads by the Brexit Company? Let’s hope BJ is actually bright enough to spot this trap.

I think you mean their intention is obvious to you

Unfortunately I now fear we will never leave.

There are too many MPs who are determined to prevent Brexit by any means possible.

Of course it is dressed up as concern over a no deal exit but their intention is obvious.

I think Boris’s best bet is to accept Nigel Farage ‘s offer of help.