Thomas Cook

Pardon?

I would have had a ball complaining here about the loss of a £2,000 business class seat to a passenger who was either ill or dead ! Yes, I had to forfeit my seat. The inconvenience of it !!

jane10 and gillybob so sorry for your families disappointment.
I am also sorry about those made redundant their worries are worse but that doesn’t mean others aren’t affected.

I have just listened to an interview on the TV.
The gentleman was placing the blame on TC’s cumbersome and expensive running costs. Too many high street premises. He explained that other ‘lighter’ firms were a problem for TC’s outdated business practices and were taking holiday makers away from the more traditional companies.
He also said, on a hopeful note, that quite a lot of the poor employees would find that their skills are very transferable and many would find work with the newer companies.

I hope so.

Thomas Cook Partner Brands
Thomas Cook.
These are all Thomas Cook agents.

Airtours.
Signature.
Manos.
Club Med.
Thomas Cook Cruise.
Thomas Cook Stores.
Thomas Cook Sport.

easybe it really is not brexit nonsense it is fact. Thomas Cook mentioned it, its not the only factor but it is a contributory factor.

EllanVannin Are feeling OK? Your last two posts don't seem to make much sense.

Brexit? Oh get real! Some posters will throw this old chestnut into any conversation. Thomas Cook was failing long before brexit was ‘conceived’ !

This thread is becoming surreal.

gillybob I hope your grandchildren get over it in time. I'm sure they will, but everything seems so much worse when you're only little and looking forward to something. Maybe when the money does eventually get refunded, they can all splash out on a huge treat.

Leaving the thread now because it's gone mad.

I'm perfectly alright thankyou, growstuff. Just happen to be on the side of the thousands who'll be out of a job if that's alright with you.

Whereas those of us who can afford holidays can at some point make alternate arrangements whereas those who find themselves unemployed have little or no choice depending on their financial abilities.

My DDs friend works in transport and travel. The TC planes are leased and still exist (obvs). They will need to be rebranded but will still be available to transport passengers. Other travel firms will see this as an opportunity and also a chance to recruit good experienced staff from TC. People will still want holidays. Companies already exist and can expand or new ones will emerge to take over this travel market. Not quickly enough for newly redundant staff but in time I hope.
PS was brexit the cause of the great fire of London or the plague. Just wondering...

Thomas Cook have been struggling for a while certainly before Brexit. I know this because I have a family member who is a senior manager and we have spoken in the past about the yearly accounts and the gaping holes!

Yes they still continued to do things like throw overseas conventions for staff ( jollies if you will) , they continued to be blasé about the online trend ( think of the market leading companies like Nokia and IBM had at one stage but blew because they didn’t see what was coming) , so whilst I’m sure it’s handy to blame Brexit it certainly isn’t the be all and end all. The fault lies in poor management and forecasting.

I noticed Virgin are already highlighting the roles they have available.

40 jumbo jets are on standby to fly passengers home.

I can’t understand why you would think
Those who have lost holidays wouldn’t be very sorry for those who have lost their jobs EllenVannin and vice versa , it is after all neither peoples fault is it?

So easy to say find another holiday but what with ? And when ? My DGC are all at school, my son and daughter in law both work and mostly have to take their time off apart to cover school holidays. For them this holiday has been almost 3 years in the planning . But never mind .

I sincerely hope that those who were employed by TC do go on to find other jobs very soon .

DD found that alternative flights are costing way more than those she'd booked. Blatant profiteering

Or terrifically bad pricing from TC Jane10?

You either sell em’ cheap and stack ‘em high ( which is TCs pricing model) or you sell them at a profitable price per seat . So when the bad times come, which are cyclical you can withstand a drop in sales .

I don’t disagree with you in that I am sure other airlines are cashing in, I’d like to have seen their seat prices pre TC crash though.

I didn't say that those who lost holidays wouldn't feel sorry for those who'd lost jobs Gillybob. That's not how I said it, but your own interpretation, yes ?

I know nothing about Ryanair as I refuse to fly with them, but EasyJet has a policy that the more people enquiring about/booking a certain flight the price increases due to interest.

Yes,it's sad for those who can't now get away, especially for the young woman who was on the news this morning who'd said that after 2 years of her brother having been murdered she'd decided to get her family and 44 friends and relatives to attend her wedding at the beginning of next month as a focus in looking forward after the family's trauma of the last 2 years.

Now that is the saddest situation. Her wedding/honeymoon and family get-together was to have been in Cyprus on the 4th of October. This, in particular made me feel very sad.
I hope someone saw her plight and will come forward to help in some way and waive all costs to this young woman.

Jane 'PS was brexit the cause of the great fire of London or the plague. Just wondering... '

really? Honestly - you truly disappoint me.

Of course there were many factors involved, but denying the falling £ and uncertainty were not factors, directly linked to Brexit- is, as said before, just plain silly. As said, disappointing from someone I believe to be an intelligent, open, person. Sad.

I’ve heard a few similar stories today EllanVannin each one sadder and more desperate than the next .

nanasndgrampy re flight costs. It was the travel agent my daughter was dealing with who was shocked at the hoisting in prices of other airlines. They know their usual costs and know that this is artificially increased.
jura I'd have thought that someone as 'woke' as you would realise that there is more going on in the world than brexit and that it doesn't have to to be brought into every thread. I am beyond disappointed in you. ?

Oh come on- there were many factors at play, for sure- but the uncertainty of Brexit and the vast down movement on £ were definitely key elements too.

Just read some of the threads by Grans with family members involved in management.