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How dare brexiteers jeopardise my daughter's life!!

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mcem Mon 23-Sept-19 18:25:25

My daughter has serious chronic health problems.
After an ileostomy, she depends on drugs to keep her digestive system working.
She has serious kidney problems with resulting UTI's and so needs specific antibiotics. Her GP today, while prescribing for her latest UTI has given her several weeks worth of antibiotics as a precaution. She'll inevitably need them over the next few months so now has a reserve supply.
Meantime, her father (my ex husband but a good friend) is equally concerned about his diabetes med's.
One brexiteer declared in a vox pop interview last week that he is prepared to do without his insulin if it means brexit goes ahead!
Well tell that to my daughter's two children (9 and 10)!!
How can anyone in their right mind accept/condone the fact that it's becoming ever clearer that normal folks like my family may suffer badly because of their short-sighted and uncaring attitudes - and that's before we get into the economics, the dishonesty and the self-serving politics of this chaos!

Urmstongran Wed 25-Sept-19 11:29:58

Actually, very well put GabriellaG54 @ Wed 25-Sep-19 10:18:09

I thought similar on reading her post. It was slightly disingenuous and the conclusion tenuous at best.
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Dinahmo Wed 25-Sept-19 10:48:33

Any news about the flu vaccine? It's nearly time to get it.

Dinahmo Wed 25-Sept-19 10:47:05

NewNanny It's all very well the government providing extra ships to bring in medication - that doesn't solve the problems with the ports.

How many of you remember pre EEC days when on returning to the UK we had to go through customs and stop at the green light? Imagine that multiplied by the massive increase in volumes of cars in addition to the freight. Of course, you could always bring in more wine than the permitted amount and go to the red light. Much quicker.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 25-Sept-19 10:44:26

That’s true of most drugs I think. I have learned that over the past few years with DH and his need to stop one drug and try another.

Dinahmo Wed 25-Sept-19 10:42:41

Several people have mentioned switching manufacturer of certain drugs. Recently there was a problem with the supply of HRT. Listening to some GPs talking about this it became clear that it isn't as simple as just switching. Some women have to try several types before they find one that actually helps them. When I had HRT nearly 30 years ago, the choice was between medication made from pregnant horses urine or synthetic. I hope they don't use horses' urine now.

GabriellaG54 Wed 25-Sept-19 10:18:09

Sallywally1
There are a multitude of jobs which come under the NHS banner, therefore your claiming to work for the NHS is ambiguous and could mean anything from cleaning or office based clerical stuff to being a consultant.
It's a meaningless soundbite to encourage those with dulled faculties to believe you have knowledge that we do not have...which is nonsense.
The horses mouth you mention is again, nonsense as you came away from that encounter without asking or knowing why he came to that conclusion and any reasonable person would have asked for factual reasons as to why he could make that assertion.
To come away without knowing any more than one person's empty take on the (future?) dearth of some medicines, is extreme folly.
Your post was void of any verifiable substance.

GracesGranMK3 Tue 24-Sept-19 21:07:54

After a referendum, every obstacle possible was put up by those that lost, they have done everything to stop democratic law and are responsible for the whole sorry mess, the job losses

Peonyrose such hate filled thoughts.

It seems to be that many who voted leave three years ago are unhappy because people promised you things they were not in a position to promise.

*You believed the referendum was legally binding. It wasn't.
*You believed that MPs have to keep their promises. They don't.
*You believed the executive (government) is senior to parliament. It isn't; it is junior.

Having either been misled or failing to understand, you then blame judges for their legal, not political ruling thus undermining our democracy further.

I find it shamefully, and also dangerous, that words such as "traitor", a word that can encouraged hate crimes, is being flung around by people who just are not getting agreement from the country, parliament, or the law.

Barmeyoldbat Tue 24-Sept-19 19:32:18

My daughter is also in thejsame position, seizures and type diabetic and poor sight to round it all off. On top of being worried about her medication I am also having to deal with the lack of carers now as most of them were from the EU are leaving rather than try for settled status.

Under no circumstances would any of my family take medication that came from China, it is unreliable, even the their neighbouring countries distrust it. Gab54 what an uncaring post.

Summerlove Tue 24-Sept-19 18:36:15

GG54, My geography is just fine thanks, I am well aware that many other companies produce medications. My point was, no one is going to be doing aid drops into the UK because it’s taking too long for people to go through every truck and every airline that flies in.

You do understand that even freight planes need to be checked with customs?

growstuff Tue 24-Sept-19 14:44:07

Talk of treason and mobsters is a little … err … colourful.

growstuff Tue 24-Sept-19 14:42:44

Maybe you could justify some of your accusations.

Peonyrose Tue 24-Sept-19 14:40:59

What but didn't make sense Whitewave, I know there were a couple of incorrect spelling, due to this old machine altering what I write, I don't re read and keep telling myself off about it. I will highlight the points I made.
I sympathise for anyone concerned about any shortages of drugs. I would be beside myself too if it were my daughter.
After a referendum, every obstacle possible was put up by those that lost, they have done everything to stop democratic law and are responsible for the whole sorry mess, the job losses etc. Years of indecision and bitterness. I feel they would have been tried for treason in the past. Lots of countries have referendums and I think this is the first time any people have taken the view that they didn't like the outcome so would derail it. So the mobsters rule. I worry for the youngsters inheriting this mess not of their making. It is shameful.
If anyone mentions un restricted amounts of people coming here, the race card is played, if fact it's played all the time now. It is not a matter of race, it's numbers, where and from whom does the money come from. From the hardworking public. Do many families are without home, never seen so many youngsters sleeping tough, it breaks your heart. They are the victims, just stop your busy lives and speak to them or work trying to help them and it becomes apparent.
The next point I make is this, if those that choose to disrupt our country and are not loyal to it, just self serving, no living by our jaws, choosing yo turn it on its head, well don't live in a democracy, try living with a dictator and see how long you would last.
Europe only want our money, not us. We could have traded with the world, not a broken Europe, it's finished.

whywhywhy Tue 24-Sept-19 13:45:16

It's scary to think that our lives are in the hands of these clowns!

GracesGranMK3 Tue 24-Sept-19 13:41:14

The Health Secretary has said medication will be available.

Sadly to believe that you would have to trust this government. Regardless of Brexit, in all my adult life I have never seen such a chaotic government in its day to day administration so I have little hope in the and no trust.

Sallywally1 Tue 24-Sept-19 13:34:52

I work for the NHS and I have heard from the horses’s mouth (a local pharmacist) that shortages of medicines are directly due to Brexit. Not sure why exactly but what I do know is that this is not why ordinary voters voted for Brexit. We are heading for disaster if Brexit is not stopped. Please don’t blame your GP or pharmacists for medicine shortages blame Niger Farage and his motley band.

Loislovesstewie Tue 24-Sept-19 13:33:43

I am sorry to repeat myself but the specific insulin used by my AC is made in France and Denmark. I know other countries make insulin ( but the UK only makes animal insulin) and that in theory insulin could be imported from elsewhere BUT it took a very long time to get an insulin that seemed to work best. Before that happened there were constant trips to A&E with very high blood sugars ( hypers) and times when I had to call an ambulance as blood sugars were so low that they were hardly registering , there were also seizures taking place at regular intervals due to hypos. The insulin used now , coupled with a Freestyle Libre has greatly reduced both hyers and hypos. After 20 years I feel a bit less stressed by the situation.
So, unless exactly the same insulin can be found elsewhere I am still very concerned.
And if Boris can be untruthful to the Queen I hold out little hope that he will be truthful with us lesser mortals.

mcem Tue 24-Sept-19 13:22:27

Thanks why.
I am so tempted to say that I see a tiny glimmer of hope. There is discussion that a government of national unity may take over now that BJ's lies have been comprehensively outed.

Not being over optimistic but taking some comfort in the fact the truth might triumph.
Today's ruling is more than just brexit and was not directly related to the final decision BUT if there is some revival of respect for honesty we may just see some cracks appearing in the edifice of self-serving hypocrisy which is masquerading as democracy.

JenniferEccles Tue 24-Sept-19 13:22:26

Whilst I do have sympathy for those worried about a possible shortage of meds I think their worries are unfounded.

The government has repeatedly said that they are prepared for a worst case scenario including medicines.

However Brexit will be blamed for absolutely everything long after we have escaped the EU clutches so all these doom and gloom scenarios will continue.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 13:12:27

No you won’t be vilified why I think the zeitgeist is with you

whywhywhy Tue 24-Sept-19 13:09:42

I'm sorry Mcem for all the worries that you have. I know that if I say I wished this bloody country would wake up and have another referendum then I will be vilified. I'm sending you love and hugs and hope that one day it can all be sorted out for the benefits of the people of this country and not the pockets of the likes of Boris!

Goodbyetoallthat Tue 24-Sept-19 13:08:08

I am a "remainer" so clearly lack a sense of humour & can't have a laugh about all of this. However I fail to be convinced by the I am a nurse practitioner, pharmacist etc so I know best argument.
We will just have to wait & see. However I really hope that those who require medication don't suffer & that it doesn't boil down to financial wherewithal in the end.

orly Tue 24-Sept-19 13:04:43

"may suffer"?

Isn't that hysteria?

newnanny Tue 24-Sept-19 12:57:15

The Health Secretary has said medication will be available. I believe I read something last week about awarding a contract to a ferry provider to bring in medication. More Remainer scaremongering does not help. We also get a lot of our drugs from countries outside of EU like India.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 12:46:51

It seems that the general opinion is that there will have to be an extension, Brexit will not be happening on the 31st

EllanVannin Tue 24-Sept-19 12:40:53

If anyone " suffers " it'll be us lot North of Watford Gap !!