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Johnson must resign

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 11:56:43

Along with Rees Mogg who as Lord President of the Privy Council and who was complicit in misleading the Queen

Grandad1943 Tue 24-Sept-19 20:38:07

Gonegirl, in regard to your post @19:30 today, could you or any other leave supporter please advise me that even if Britain "crashes out" of the European Union with no withdrawal agreement how that will resolve the Irish border issue?

I realise that the above question has been asked on this forum any number of times prior to my request, but I cannot recall any leave supporter furnishing an answer.

Grandad1943 Tue 24-Sept-19 20:22:38

It would seem that support for Johnson may now be drifting away among Tory MPs. Many are refusing to give any comment on the Supreme Court judgment or state any outright support for their party leader.

Apparently, it was reported on our BBC local news program "Points West" that one Tory MP who stated he wished to remain anonymous advised the reporter that "Johnson cannot be allowed to remain as leader."

The rats are starting to desert the Johnson ship in the hope of saving their own seats in the forthcoming election.

I believe that unless Johnson is prepared to throw the DUP and the Northern Irish people "under the bus" to save Brexit, he will be out as leader, and then give it six months and just like Cameron, within the Tory Party, it will be as if Johnson never existed.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 19:34:00

It will if they revoke.

In fact it’s the least damaging option.

Simply business as usual.

Just think peace and normality.

Gonegirl Tue 24-Sept-19 19:30:55

There can never be a satisfactory deal so why not let Johnson carry on and crash his way out of the EU. The country's got to get moving again.

NotSpaghetti Tue 24-Sept-19 19:26:40

I know this is a difficult and serious discussion but can I just share this little bit of instant YouTube humour please?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=W0pTpwqkB48

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 19:22:34

How about revoke and re-think?

Peonyrose Tue 24-Sept-19 19:15:17

The mind boggles it's absolutely bonkers, ridiculous, another referendum when the first one has caused all this upset. Well, what chance have we got with such views. I know we will keep on until no one is alive to remember the first one.

varian Tue 24-Sept-19 18:53:31

I think BJ needs to be booted out by a VONC. He has not the honesty or the decency to resign.

Happiyogi Tue 24-Sept-19 17:43:19

Johnson should resign?
ASAP

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 17:39:04

Today was all about constitutional law and Johnson misleading and abusing.

But he still has to answer a potential criminal charge of the misuse of public money.

humptydumpty Tue 24-Sept-19 17:00:48

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crystaltipps Tue 24-Sept-19 16:56:48

Using the argument that you are upholding democracy or the will of the people or whatever soundbites Cummings comes up with doesn’t mean Johnson can break the law, despite what Brexiteers were hoping. How can he disagree with the judges - he more or less admitted he prorogued parliament to thwart debate.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 16:22:42

The only way out of this is a second referendum.

A GE won’t answer

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 16:20:47

Not ours, - court

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 16:20:26

I see Cummings is issuing statement one a minute. He isn’t best pleased is he?

People seem a bit confused about the European courts.

The European court nor the appeal court have NO SOVEREIGNTY over UK LAW.

Contrary to what Brexiters would have you believe.

The government is stuck with the ruling.

The Supreme. Ours is the highest court in the Land.

No one can over rule it’s judgement.

lemongrove Tue 24-Sept-19 16:09:45

Eloethan I don’t think it’s that he is popular, but more that
He is the only leader promising to honour the results of the referendum.

lemongrove Tue 24-Sept-19 16:07:53

Johnson doesn’t have to resign as PM, it’s up to him, but what he could do is resign as PM but stay as leader of the Conservative Party if MPs agree to have a GE.Of course, he could win and be back in power again.Anything is possible these days.

BlueBelle Tue 24-Sept-19 15:55:24

Come back Guy Fawkes blow the whole blooming lot up and let’s start again
Who ever further up said Boris would win with a bigger majority than ever must be on something and floating about in a flower power space
varian that hat said it all didn’t it ?

Eloethan Tue 24-Sept-19 15:50:12

newnanny If you are right and if Johnson is very popular and would easily win an election, I am sorry at what this country has come to.

Apart from this absolute shambles re prorogation, he has proved to be a man of bad character and judgment.

Jane10 Tue 24-Sept-19 15:26:54

Wow. Those T shirt printers are quick. Think I'd rather just have the diamond brooch though.

Elegran Tue 24-Sept-19 15:13:42

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223679208508

Jane10 Tue 24-Sept-19 15:05:13

The advert on the bottom of my screen on this thread is 'Become a Citizen of Monaco'. Quite tempting actually!

M0nica Tue 24-Sept-19 15:02:27

It was actually described as 'unlawful'. I described it as unconstitutional and a legal friend corrected me very firmly.

Day6 Tue 24-Sept-19 15:01:58

He should go, as he has abused parliament and misled the Queen

But he hasn't has he?

The Queen's legal team were also misled then?

You surely don't think she acts without their advice on such matters?

Day6 Tue 24-Sept-19 14:58:59

The ruling merely said it was unconstutional. It did not say that the Queen was misled or that it was intended to thwart opposition.

AND one can bet the Queen's legal team were OK with Boris's request too, or she would not have given her consent.

The Queen is guided by the law and would have been given all the answers to her questions about prorogation before seeing Boris.