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If we had another referendum

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Dottynan Wed 25-Sept-19 06:40:06

If we had another referendum next week would you vote the same way you did in 2016

EllanVannin Wed 25-Sept-19 11:13:46

I'd still vote Remain. It was the right thing to do because I thought about my GGC when I used my vote. Their futures---not mine !! I've lived my life, they have only just begun.

humptydumpty Wed 25-Sept-19 11:15:52

Barmeyoldbat completely agree: revoke article 50 and have a crossparty group + external interests start negotiations again, then put to a referendum I don't feel that the timescale the LP are supporting is going to be long enough.

MaizieD I don't like LP decision, but it does leave the way open for both leave and remain supporters, as they are promising a second referendum.

IMO also a second referendum would need not only a minimum % turnout, but also a minimum margin by the winning choice.

EllanVannin Wed 25-Sept-19 11:18:10

Gillybob, I'll be lecturing my GGC to emigrate as soon as they're able because this country's finished. Luckily I have family in Oz and it would be an opportunity too good to miss out on.

I wish I was younger sad

Whitewavemark2 Wed 25-Sept-19 11:19:41

kitty not sure of your point.

How is my comment different from others.

“Terrible” seems a tad excessive?

Miep1 Wed 25-Sept-19 12:04:49

Yes. I would still vote remain

AllotmentLil Wed 25-Sept-19 14:10:51

Still Remain.

Tea3 Wed 25-Sept-19 14:25:05

We elect MPs to represent us and govern together with advice from the Civil Service and (hopefully) experts. A referendum seems a poor way of deciding policy. We need a general election.

GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Sept-19 14:27:47

Tea3 we definitely need a GE as soon as possible.

jura2 Wed 25-Sept-19 14:27:52

yes, remain and with even more conviction.

pinkquartz Wed 25-Sept-19 14:27:56

NO

growstuff Wed 25-Sept-19 14:52:29

A general election wouldn't provide any answers to Brexit.

growstuff Wed 25-Sept-19 14:53:51

The government needs a clear mandate to continue with the path it's taking. The only way to achieve that (or not) is with an honest referendum with "revoke" as one of the options.

Fennel Wed 25-Sept-19 14:57:41

I've spoken to a few people who are even more determined that we should leave. And a few ex-remainers who have changed. all because 'we want to get it over and done with'.
Same part of the country as you, Gillybob.

Cindersdad Wed 25-Sept-19 14:59:30

I'd still vote REMAIN. Most people appear to intend voting the same way. However of the 44 million electorate in 2016 roughly 2.5 million have passed away and about the same number of younger voters have become eligible. Now we understand the nature of Brexit better, the result of a second poll could go either way.

If Brexit goes ahead and it turns out to be a mistake could we rejoin on the terms we have now? I somehow doubt it. A second poll I believe is the only democratic way forward.

growstuff Wed 25-Sept-19 15:06:26

I've already explained why the electorate itself has changed over the last three years. It's entirely possible that the result would be very different, even without people changing their minds.

PS. People who think it will all be over and done with are kidding themselves. Leaving with no deal will make the future more difficult and the negotiations more prolonged.

growstuff Wed 25-Sept-19 15:07:14

Just seen your post Cindersdad. Sorry to repeat what you wrote. I agree.

WOODMOUSE49 Wed 25-Sept-19 15:11:02

Simple question from Dottyman. No explanation asked for.

Simple answer from me: Yes.

Tea3 Wed 25-Sept-19 15:14:16

If there is another referendum then a vote to leave/remain still has to get through Parliament. A general election gives us all the chance to endorse or otherwise our own MPs views. I've issues regarding a local matter with our MP but still I think they are more likely to make a better judgment on Europe than me.

pinkquartz Wed 25-Sept-19 15:24:01

I would also emigrate if I wasn't already too ill and disabled.
Fact is I need our NHS........

Rebellious Wed 25-Sept-19 16:33:45

More remain than ever and it was an easy decision the first time.

growstuff Wed 25-Sept-19 16:55:51

No, it doesn't Tea, because some people will vote for non-Brexit issues and others will be faced with no choice on Brexit. The only way to determine whether the small majority of British people still want to leave the EU is for another referendum.

jura2 Wed 25-Sept-19 16:58:19

Indeed Growstuff, demographics alone have changed hugely the picture. The young won't make the same mistake twice, either, eg, not to bother to vote.

Fennel- I agree that there is a good number of people of retirement age who have become more entrenched on their Leave position, some my even have changed their mind for leave (although I do not know of any myself) - but I am sure they are a very small number in the grand scale of things- and vastly outnumbered at the other end, by young people.

Sussexborn Fri 27-Sept-19 09:56:55

WW is the self appointed lord and master of us all. His opinion is sacrosanct and must never be challenged especially by women who have smaller brains than him. That’s what worries normal everyday people. Belittling people alienates them totally. He thinks if he keeps repeating the same boring mantra people will just give in and do what he says.

Sussexborn Fri 27-Sept-19 10:00:37

I would vote the same. I do not want my grandchildren conscripted to an EU army. I have been mocked for mentioning this possibility and now it seems I wasn’t quite as stupid as people told me I was.

growstuff Fri 27-Sept-19 10:04:48

Really? Where's your evidence. Still seems like a very remote possibility to me. Are you worried about your grandchildren being conscripted to NATO?