Bad language

As WW2 would say...Oh dear!

Where as I don't agree with everything in your list for example the one about Boris or Nigel, I don't see why the title of this thread is 'Bad Language' or why you refer to this list as lies.

You may not agree but that doesn't make them lies and "Repeating slogans is not intelligent debate and repeating lies doe not make them true" is equally applicable to remainers.

Well spotted Varian, yes it’s using a scattering of inflammatory words which covertly slants the topic into a negative interpretation.

Ed Davy has called for Boris Johnson to be decapitated

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The rhetoric is disgusting from all sides

Do you mean Ed Davey? That was bang out of order but quite some time ago and he apologised.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/25/lib-dem-ed-davey-apologises-for-decapitate-comment

After the criticism, Davey tweeted he regretted the use of violent language. “I recognise this wasn’t an acceptable choice of phrase and I’m sorry,” he said.

“This was careless use of language, meant in electoral sense and in no way literally. While we should be robust in our opposition, we do have to carefully consider impact of our words and I failed to do that."

In political jargon the term "decapitate" has many times been used to mean the removal of a party leader. However it could be seen as aggressive so Ed Davey did apologise.

I wonder how long we might have to wait forBoris Johnson to apologise for anything.

I wonder if any of you have visited Boris Johnson on Facebook. In the comments you will find a fascinating repetition of slogan chanting and no reasoned discussion at all. Whether spread by real people or Russian bits? slogans are contagious, memorable and the death of intelligent discussion.

Russian bots I suppose bits is just as accurate if these are indeed computer programmes rather than people.

It was appalling, and now the Tories are blaming the opposition and calling for calm - total humbug.

It was Geoffrey Cox who set the tone by a barrage of disputing the Supreme Court, how did he expect the opposition to react. Backed up by the PM, totally unrepentant and dismissive, they could have said “ OK we got it wrong let’s work together for a solution “

Now they are saying calm down!, how can anyone take them seriously. Is this the good guy, bad guy tactics?.

Nick Boles:

“Let him (meaning BJ) twist in the wind and then strike” ? I expect there will be a bunch of people who will justify this as completely fine. However, it is not a phrase anyone would expect to use without receiving angry, defensive responses

At the Labour Party Conference in 2018 Ian Laverty the party chairman said " We need to kill off the Nationalists in Scotland and regain that great country". Bad / dangerous language against the SNP/Scotland is sadly nothing new and has caused its own problems here fuelling hatred on the streets of Glasgow in particular. Nicola Sturgeon First Minister and Kesia Dugdale (Scottish Labour), and Ruth Davidson ( Scottish Tory), had spoken out in March of that year about their concerns.

The Benn Bill is a Surrender Bill.

firecracker

How clever of you to prove everyone’s point.

Repeating slogans is not intelligent.

It is entirely meaningless

? It is a Surrender Bill whether you like it or not, you don't like it because it hits a nerve. I have another one which should resonate with a lot of Remainer posters or should I say Remoaners obviously that hits a nerve as well
Synthetic Outrage (another one of Boris's gems).

Gosh “synthetic outrage”

The main question would be :

Why would anyone, with any sense, vote for any of them ??

how did he expect the opposition to react

Clearly the opposition reacted as they were intended to do.
They didn't have to.

It's disgusting that this is what's happening instead of the government trying to do its best for the UK.

Very good post, varian.

Smileless2012, the language in varian's list is not good. The opposite of good, is bad.

It is 'not good' or 'bad' because it uses insults, inflammatory language and sometimes lies instead of reasoned arguments. In making such a seismic decision about the future of our country and our grandchildren, we need to use persuasion based on facts and reasoned argument, not uninformed slogans and insults.

I hope that people will watch the video clip (as shown by the BBC) at the head of this twitter thread

MP Karl Turner speaks to Dominic Cummings about the inflammatory language being 'encouraged' in the House. He says that he has received death threats overnight. Cummimg's response? "Get Brexit done"

Sounds like a threat to me...

twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1177459935124189185

Actually, having seen this last night, it was Karl Turner being threatening!
Cummings stayed calm throughout.

Whitewave yes Synthetic Outrage something Remainers on here are good at.

Get Brexit Done means do it and everyone can calm down and get back to the normal business of domestic politics.

Repeating slogans is meaningless lol
The next government
The next government
The next government
yes would have to agree with that.