What happens next?

Do you have a link to the statement that they will not extend, Keeper1?

I voted remain but there a point I am not clear on, so apologies please don’t jump on me.

Parliament have ruled that to leave with no deal cannot happen, however what about the EU they have a leave date of 31st October and have stated that no further extension would be forthcoming so will they just regard us as having left come 31st they are not bound by our Parliament?

Thx notentirely... I suppose the point I was making was after I’d read another post about language used by both sides and one regular comment is unelected EU Bureaucrats. Here we are with an advisor to BJ, Dom Cummings instructing govt departments directly to disclose all our user data? He is most certainly unelected. This the man who dismissed a member of staff from a minister’s team without the authority and instructed a security police detail to escort her from the premises. I’m not sure I’d trust this man with the Downing Street cat let alone my user data!!

DidoLaMents, thanks for the link. I hadn't seen that before. Not quite sure what point you want to make with it. For me it seems par for the course of where we're going, i.e. towards a Fascist state. Certainly, the gathering and use of data, including personalised data, is now beyond the average citizen's knowledge is my guess.

There's an interesting book about what has happened in the social media world/with data called Everybody Lies: what the Internet can tell us about who we really are. A lot of it is about the American elections but it's relevant to the UK too.

Does anyone understand and can put into words- what was hinted at last night on Question Time- and that Cleverly tried very hard not to answer.

Re Johnson stating he can both 'obey the law' and at the same time, crash us out without a Deal? As many journalists have pointed out- the two do not tally. So what has he got up his sleeve. Someone on QT mentionned abiding by Benn Act put somehow postponing it until after we have left ??????

Help, please.

notentirelyallthere and pantglas2 thx for your contribution. You mentioned the Guardian and found this article that is worrying, especially cos it’s Dom Cummings who is asking for it?! I googled User data and a lot came up about govt requests inc FB, WhatsApp?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/10/no-10-request-user-data-government-website-sparks-alarm

La, la, la, no need to worry, unicorns and magic wands and fairies will appear (p.s. I'm glad I'm not on any kind of medication!). From the Guardian this morning, not the sort of thing you'd find in the Telegraph/Express/Mail who believe in fairies etc.

"Ministers will not know whether there are enough medicines, medical supplies or freight capacity to support the NHS if the UK leaves the EU without a deal next month, Whitehall’s spending watchdog has found.

With just five weeks to Britain’s scheduled withdrawal on 31 October, the National Audit Office (NAO) said there were still risks, with the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) still to do a “significant amount” of work .

In a critical report, the government’s “reasonable worst case” assumption is that the flow of goods across the Channel could be reduced to 40-60% of current levels on day one. Auditors said the data available did not show that the department was ready, or would be ready, if the UK were to leave the EU on the planned date.

Meg Hillier, the chair of the public accounts committee, said the report was deeply concerning and could result in the “gravest of consequences”.

Auditors examined the supply and transport of 7,000 medicines that come to the UK either from or via the EU as well as at least 450,000 different medical devices available on the NHS, most of which come to the UK through ports on the Channel.

The report said additional freight capacity chartered by the government for shipping priority goods across the Channel may not be fully available until the end of November, a month after the UK is scheduled to leave."

I think it's going to take a generation to clear the anger and division. In the short term, I think there will be violence on the streets and I am sure the government have prepared for that. Heavy prison sentences will be handed out aka the 2011 riots and then we'll settle down to simmering while our standard of living plummets, food shortages abound, all sorts of unthought of problems will emerge and it will be blamed on the EU!!

I too am wary of what’s going to happen next. I know of so many people on both sides who are venting their spleen angrily threatening all sorts, to the point where every conversation gets turned into a Brexit row.