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Nobel laureate economist says there is ZERO chance Brexit will leave the UK better off

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Joelsnan Sun 29-Sept-19 23:27:25

MaizieD
Your attempts at sarcasm do not reflect kindly on you.

M0nica Sun 29-Sept-19 23:20:01

Hetty58 There is nothing dodgy about Paul Krugeman. But obviously there will be people who disagree with him. Quora is a merely a question and answer site and the author of this report disgreeing with Krugeman is not an academic. No doubt an excellent software engineer, which is his profession, and entitled to disagree with Krugeman but not of sufficient weight to seriously challenge him..

Now, had you searched further you would have found the Economists for Free Trade, led by the very highly regarded Professor of Economics at Cardiff Business School, Patrick Minford. He would certainly disagree with Krugeman as would many of the other professional economists on the board of that group.

But even that would not make Krugeman, or the site Gagjo recommended dodgy. It just shows that people of equal academic eminence in the same subject can disagree with each other - and no more than that.

MaizieD Sun 29-Sept-19 23:15:42

who, like myself, are liberal-minded and have no wish to perpetuate our deeply divided (and dangerous) society.

Aha, have we struck gold here?

As a highly educated, high achieving and earning, liberal minded professional, Hetty58 could you explain why you feel that the EU has perpetuated a deeply divided and dangerous society in the UK?

(Or am I just reading your post wrongly?)

Hetty58 Sun 29-Sept-19 23:08:27

Growstuff, economists love trends, especially projecting past trends into the future. Therefore, they tend towards getting things dramatically wrong.

Some leave voters are atypical. There are a significant number of highly educated, high achieving and earning professionals, who, like myself, are liberal-minded and have no wish to perpetuate our deeply divided (and dangerous) society. We voted for change.

Hetty58 Sun 29-Sept-19 22:38:04

GagaJo, beware of dodgy sources, this guy is 'the expert' at getting things wrong - read and digest!:

www.quora.com/What-things-has-Paul-Krugman-been-very-wrong-about

paddyann Sun 29-Sept-19 22:36:52

they believed in amagical place where they grew up..only it never existed except in their minds.Britannian DOESN'T rule the waves ,we have hardly any ships or planes to put on them ..and Lizzie cant be saved she at an age where she WILL die sooner rather than later .There is nowhere where everyone is white well dressed speaks in BBC English and lives fairytale lives.THATS all bunkum..how sad so many think it was ever real

M0nica Sun 29-Sept-19 22:32:35

Writing as an economist and a Remainer, while I tend to agree with Paul Krugeman, - and his field of specialism is international trade, nevertheless, not all eminent economists agree with him.

Patrick Minford, Professor of Economics at Cardiff Business School has spoken often and frequently defending Brexit and chairs 'Economists for Free Trade, a Brexit supporting pressure group who argues that Brexit could boost the economy to a tune of £135 billion. Quite a few econmic professors and city gurus are on the board of this group.

Now I have argued the Leaver case for them. I hope they will accept that most Remainers share my generous spirit in givng them support where they are entitled to it and that they will now be equally open-minded in return.smile

varian Sun 29-Sept-19 22:21:44

Analysis of national newspapers in 2016 found that The Independent and the "i" were the only balanced newspapers, giving equal weight to both sides of the brexit argument.

growstuff Sun 29-Sept-19 22:18:25

So what did they believe?

Hetty58 Sun 29-Sept-19 22:17:16

Those who voted leave didn't do so because they believed Britain would magically be better off financially (especially in the short term) anyway - so it's all a bit silly!

Barmeyoldbat Sun 29-Sept-19 22:16:21

Well thats why some of us want to remain but it will just fall on deaf ears.

Urmstongran Sun 29-Sept-19 22:15:41

I know the Independent newspaper though and it takes its own slant. Remain all the way through like a stick of rock. It has organised and funded many of the anti Brexit protests in London.

varian Sun 29-Sept-19 22:10:35

But the British people don't believe in experts- or do we????

GagaJo Sun 29-Sept-19 21:30:24

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/brexit-paul-krugman-zero-chance-britain-better-off-eu-leave-single-market-custom-union-exports-trade-a7965871.html?utm_source=bestforbritain.org&fbclid=IwAR3Aw15u8iAkiUgLmtwLR8ST_q0vBm7gt_EbXK2r5HmS9ggaGqCxfgfAySQ

SO. Don't believe 'Leavers' if you don't want to. This guy is THE expert.