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Breaking news - Boris Johnson said something which is actually true!!!

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varian Wed 02-Oct-19 18:12:19

Boris Johnson said today "there are foces in this country which do not want brexit done"

For once he speaks the truth. The opinion polls for the last two and a half years have shown that the majority of UK citizens want to Remain in the EU.

Well done, BJ, for confounding us all by saying something which is true. It is time for you to get the message and stop brexit.

HootyMcOwlface Wed 02-Oct-19 18:18:50

Well, slap my bum and call me Nigel!! Boris Johnson tells the truth, for perhaps the first time ever! Should be front page news tomorrow then, I must go and buy a paper to keep for prosperity, it could become a collectors item!

lemongrove Wed 02-Oct-19 18:31:53 are a try-er, I’ll give you that! ?The Lib Dems should award you a medal for persistency.

gallusquine Wed 02-Oct-19 18:42:50

Was there a not so hidden message in the choice of music that he chose for his walk on ? Teenage Wasteland ?

varian Wed 02-Oct-19 18:49:06

The "the forces in this country who do not want brexit done" should be listened to BJ.

For the last three and a half years the only British folk who have been listened to have been the 17 million Leave voters, who were promised all sorts of undeliverable pie-in-the-sky nonsense.

Some of them have now woken up and seen through your lies and the other 50 million people in the UK who have never believed it anyway and have had enough of your nonsense.

It is time to admit that you and the other leave campaigners told lies and you should just do what any patriotic politician must do -STOP BREXIT now before any more damage is done to our country.

varian Thu 03-Oct-19 11:13:22

EllanVannin Thu 03-Oct-19 12:47:16

I'm almost certain he himself doesn't want to exit the EU but is doing so because the majority voted which means that the majority is " on-side " to keep him in position of PM should there be a GE. This is my own personal view.

I've been waiting to see if Labour do a U-turn towards Leaving as initially Corbyn was a Remainer and if they do, you can say goodbye to Boris as a Conservative government on its own strength, without Brexit, would be no more.

newnanny Thu 03-Oct-19 13:16:44

I have been listening to the House of Commons carefully this morning. Apart form Lib Dems, SNP and Labour front bench I think Boris proposals will get enough support to get through the house if he can get an agreement with EU before 19th Oct. To leave with an agreement is surely the best outcome for both UK and EU. This is not a perfect agreement for UK, NI or EU however all 3 sides need to seriously compromise. In this agreement Boris has said there will be no hard border on NI so protecting peace on NI. I think Boris has worked very hard and this is a good way forward.

Gonegirl Thu 03-Oct-19 13:19:42

Oh for goodness sake! Give it up varian. You really don't want to become bitter and twisted over this.

growstuff Thu 03-Oct-19 13:19:58

I thought Corbyn has always supported leaving the EU.

Gonegirl Thu 03-Oct-19 13:20:55

The man's doing a job that has to be done. He could well pull this off if the sodding EU will just give a bit.

growstuff Thu 03-Oct-19 13:22:04

The Irish (both north and south of the border) don't seem very happy with the proposal (apart from the DUP). I think they've been treated as irrelevant collateral.

Gonegirl Thu 03-Oct-19 13:22:05

I thought Boris was one of the original Leavers.

growstuff Thu 03-Oct-19 13:24:22

Why should the EU give anything? It's the UK which wants to leave. Eire will remain in the EU and the other member states are behind them.

The UK should have thought about all this before it even thought about leaving.

growstuff Thu 03-Oct-19 13:25:06

He was. I don't understand.

growstuff Thu 03-Oct-19 13:25:57

Varian is as entitled to her views as you are Gonegirl.

growstuff Thu 03-Oct-19 13:28:40

As there still don't seem to be any tangible benefits from leaving (apart from for a few financiers and ideologues), the best outcome would be to revoke Article 50 and address the issues which made people want to vote to leave.

Amagran Thu 03-Oct-19 14:23:48

Quite so, growstuff, I totally agree.

maddyone Thu 03-Oct-19 14:28:11

The same old regurgitated stuff.

NanKate Thu 03-Oct-19 14:28:50

I hope you are right newnanny. I agree with what you say. ?

Calendargirl Thu 03-Oct-19 14:57:33

Yes newnanny, I sincerely hope Boris manages to pull it off and get a deal of sorts, but doubt if the Remainers will allow that to happen.

DidoLaMents Thu 03-Oct-19 15:17:04

Varian is indeed entitled to her opinion, gonegirl. Some people have never stopped objecting about our EU membership and use some pretty dodgy language to wind Brexit supporters up. .......

“If they don’t deliver this Brexit that I spent 25 years of my life working for, then I will be forced to don khaki, pick up a rifle and head for the front lines”

Nigel Farage, 14 May 2017

In reality 50% voted leave - 50% voted remain and Farage was ready to continue for another 25 years if the voting numbers had been reversed. I think you are being very optimistic that all will end on 31.10.19. Especially if life beyond Brexit proves less favourable as many think. You won’t see Nigel for dust.

dragonfly46 Thu 03-Oct-19 15:26:23

BJ was originally a remainer but realised he had more chance at the top job as a Brexiteer. I think he is hoping for no deal as the right wing Tories will make a lot of money as that is what they have bet on. At the end of the day it all comes down to money not what is best for the country.

Jabberwok Thu 03-Oct-19 15:36:07

80% of M P's across the H of C voted to implement article 50, the two main parties went into an election on the back of delivering Brexit! Surely these, as it's turned out, despicable dishonest MP's on all sides should bear some of the responsibility, not just Jo /Joe soap public who were led by the nose by people who would sell their own Granny to get to No 10!

DidoLaMents Thu 03-Oct-19 15:51:19

jabberwok they voted barely seven months after the referendum; I’m not sure they, like many of us, fully understood the implications of what it meant to leave EU. Why is it such a sin to change your mind? It makes you mistaken or misled; not despicable or dishonest.