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This Country has gone too far to the right

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Grany Fri 04-Oct-19 09:48:02

Not just politics but the the newspapers we read also add to it with mainly a right wing bias. For example in Norway there is a high-degree of media ownership fragmentation, they are sometimes owned by not-for-profit foundations and all receive state subsidies based on circulation, which in turn ensures a modicum of objectivity and plurality of opinion. Their British counterparts are often highly partisan and espouse a largely right-wing editorial agenda. In contrast, British media ownership is highly concentrated: 70% of national newspapers are owned by just three companies and a third are owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News UK.

It is probably not without reason that a recent report by the European Broadcasting Union found that the United Kingdom among all of the EU member-states (+Albania, FYROM & Turkey) scores the lowest in levels of trust in written media.

Conservatism was doing OK One Nation Conservatism as it was called. Until Thatcher with New Right neoliberalism which has got progressively and steadily worse putting the wealth into already 1% rich hands and forgetting everyone else. Public services now gone to pot with tax cuts to big corporations who should be paying their fair share instead, money into public services.
Now the Nordic countries are doing good they have social-democratic Labour polices

And this is not only the case in Norway, but has been integral to the social-democratic post-war consensus in all the Nordic countries. Judging by almost any measure of social indicators these policies have been a success, the Nordic region enjoys some of the world’s highest living standards and presumably should be a model to be emulated rather than avoided. Obviously the Nordic region is no earthly paradise and there are cultural, economic and historical differences between the UK and Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden, but if there is such a thing as a ‘best practice approach’ in public policy the Nordic model would probably be it and, at any measure, a useful benchmark for Britain to move towards.

So remember that neoliberalism is failed economics an ideology, austerity is not needed. All parties who follow this failed economic neoliberal model are moving in the wrong direction and is not good for the whole of this country.

This explains things a lot.

www.opendemocracy.net/en/can-europe-make-it/jeremy-corbyn-mainstream-scandinavian-social-democrat/

MaizieD Sun 06-Oct-19 21:22:36

I thought reddit made a bit of a change from the Guardian, growstuff grin

growstuff Sun 06-Oct-19 21:22:56

grapefruitpip This same poster claimed that her husband didn't get a job because he didn't belong to a minority group. It was nothing to do with bad luck on the day or not being as good as somebody else - oh no!

growstuff Sun 06-Oct-19 21:23:40

Indeed Maizie. The poster certainly didn't hold back grin.

trisher Sun 06-Oct-19 22:04:31

MaizieD I thought that but then I realised a boat full of refugees might arrive one day and then what would happen???

growstuff Sun 06-Oct-19 23:02:21

She'd be OK if they were white, Christian, heterosexual refugees. Probably not OK if they were democratic cannibals. hmm

aprilrose Mon 07-Oct-19 05:39:14

Like an uninhabited desert island, perhaps, aprilrose?

I wish. But unlike many of those rich socialists ( Richrad Branson comes to mind) or the so called socialist " Celebrities" with their several homes in many countries , where they can retreat when they don't like it here, all pushing the leftist ideas, I do not have a private island or the money to afford one to get away from the problems.

aprilrose Mon 07-Oct-19 05:42:11

She'd be OK if they were white, Christian, heterosexual refugees. Probably not OK if they were democratic cannibals.

That is nasty and inciteful of hatred. Nowhere have I said anything like that. When others have to put up with comments like yours no wonder no one can have a good conversation and opinions. . You called me a wind up merchant , but in fact it is you who are guilty of that.

growstuff Mon 07-Oct-19 07:33:10

Don't you believe in freedom of speech? According to you, I'm entitled to say whatever I want.

growstuff Mon 07-Oct-19 07:34:27

"It allows those smarting from a loss of privilege to be offered the shroud of victimhood"

Anja Mon 07-Oct-19 07:54:01

Back to the OP’s statement...of course this country, like the USA, has swung too far to the right. Even allowing for a different in opinion about how far is ‘too far’ this is obvious.

crystaltipps Mon 07-Oct-19 07:54:56

I’m not sure where the writer who claims minorities get preferential treatment lives- perhaps she could give some examples. Also where has she wanted to live where she has been told she can’t?

grapefruitpip Mon 07-Oct-19 08:37:06

Very interested to hear about the person passed over for the job because they were not from a minority group and the people bumped up lists because they are.

Please ,expand with examples if possible. Much appreciated.

trisher Mon 07-Oct-19 09:09:07

Is Richard Branson a 'socialist'? I thought he was just a rich kid who got richer. I do like Alexi Sayle's joke-Whenever I meet a millionaire I think there are 999999 people who are missing a quid. (love his Imaginary Sandwich Bar on the radio).

Jaycee5 Mon 07-Oct-19 11:20:59

trisher It is hard to imagine anyone less like a socialist than Branson. It never occured to me to assume that anyone would think him a socialist.
He is anti nuclear weapons and has a few ideas that could be considered left wing. He said during the Thatcher years that he did not see any difference between the parties, which seems a bit of a stretch considering how right wing she was so to consider him a socialist seems a stretch. I can't think of any socialist ideas that he has ever expounded.

varian Mon 07-Oct-19 12:40:49

I've never seen Richard Branson in a double breasted pin-striped suit and his hair has always been a bit long, so perhaps aprilrose thinks he looks like a socialist.

MaizieD Mon 07-Oct-19 14:00:41

Sartorial determinism, eh, varian? grin

Alexa Mon 07-Oct-19 14:06:05

The more right wing the less people are regarded as persons and more as commodities.