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The Queen’s Speech today

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Urmstongran Mon 14-Oct-19 09:36:14

Pomp and

Her Majesty will be reading out the Government’s programme for the next 12 months with no real expectation on the part of her ministers that any of the proferred legislation will be enacted.

When the Queen says today that “my Government will” introduce this statute or amend that law, everyone will know the chances of it doing so are vanishingly small.

Amid all the defections and suspensions of Conservative MPs, Boris Johnson is at least 40 votes short of a majority and could well lose the main division on the Queen’s Speech, the first prime minister to do so in almost 100 years.

But the reality behind today’s announcements is that, until there is a general election, a new Parliament and a conclusion to Brexit, the current political paralysis will continue!

Calendargirl Tue 15-Oct-19 12:58:51

I didn’t think the Queen looked any frailer than normal. What do people expect her to be doing at 93? Jumping over a five -barred gate? Her voice wasn’t a monotone, she always sounds like that when reading a speech. Looking pale and her body falling into itself? I couldn’t see that. She will never retire. Her duties are gradually being carried out by others, which is what should happen as she ages.
I’m sure Charles enjoys a drink, but his ruddy complexion is probably also due to spending time outdoors.

Oopsminty Tue 15-Oct-19 13:00:04

I thought the Queen sounded her usual self.

Good point about the ruddiness of Charles's complexion. He is an outdoor type of chap

grapefruitpip Tue 15-Oct-19 13:02:18

She will never retire? Yes she will.

I'm not overly bothered about the monarchy and I just caught a snippet of her voice. It sounded weak. She is a very old person who has served her country admirably.

Calendargirl Tue 15-Oct-19 13:04:03

No she won’t.

Grany Tue 15-Oct-19 13:05:11

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The Queen's Speech is reported to have cost £220,000. An extremely rich old woman in a diamond tiara sat on a sort of golden throne in an ornate hall and read nonsense from a vellum manuscript. Because, apparently, no-one could think of a better use for £220,000.

Alexa Tue 15-Oct-19 13:05:32

That little woman who always does her duty has been cheated by a man with a very queer sort of conscience.

Gonegirl Tue 15-Oct-19 13:05:43

" the opulence on display in Parliament today deeply uncomfortable."

Don't think I did misunderstand her meaning trisher.

Gonegirl Tue 15-Oct-19 13:07:16

There has to be a State Opening of Parliament at this time of year. Regardless of the circumstances the governement and the country are in.

Calendargirl Tue 15-Oct-19 13:09:25

grapefruitpip

If by retire, you mean an announcement such as when the D of E finished carrying out public duties, no. She will wind down until she does nothing, but it will never be announced as retirement.

That’s what I think anyhow, but of course in reality none of us know.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 15-Oct-19 13:10:39

At least the ceremonies of our great country can be relied on which is more than can be said for the "clowns" in the Palace of Westminster........on second thoughts that is insulting to clowns!!!

grapefruitpip Tue 15-Oct-19 14:32:37

our great country

I don't think it's great. It's small, and out of its depth and on the point of being an isolated joke.

Urmstongran Tue 15-Oct-19 15:03:20

I totally disagree gfp

Why do so many Remainers love to talk down this country? Yes it’s not perfect (nowhere is) but it is bluddy wonderful (mostly). Why do so many people bust a gut then to get here when they could stay in France etc?

Over to the corner with you lady - you can sit next to the grumpy actor Emma Thompson - she who described the U.K. as “a cake-filled, misery-laden grey old island” ❗️

Gonegirl Tue 15-Oct-19 15:08:35

What's wrong with cake filled anyway?!

Urmstongran Tue 15-Oct-19 15:10:24

Nothing! It’s the rest ....
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Gonegirl Tue 15-Oct-19 15:12:03

Not grey at the moment - nice bit of sunshine. sunshine

Urmstongran Tue 15-Oct-19 15:16:21

Absolutely Gonegirl High 5!

Gonegirl Tue 15-Oct-19 15:20:51

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Sorry it took so long to find that. You had to choose what colour you wanted. confused

GrannyGravy13 Tue 15-Oct-19 15:30:40

Having traveled all round the world and seen how different countries “operate” I am proud to call myself British.

Urmstongran Tue 15-Oct-19 15:38:12

I like them all ???????????
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GracesGranMK3 Tue 15-Oct-19 15:56:26

I love our country too and am grateful for all it has given me. That doesn't blind me to the fact that many other countries do just as well as we do in areas we were once expert at, we bury our heads about the advancement of many other countries, our weather is very variable and we seem to be trying to destroy our economy at the moment. In the process of doing that we have also managed to bring down the esteem in which we have been previously held by many countries for our honesty and honour.

It's a bit like loving your child. That should not blind you to its bad behaviour or the fact that there are many other children loved by their parents some of whom will not think that highly of yours especially when it shows a tendency to entitlement or to being overweening. To do the best for your child you have to really know their failings as well as their achievements, their good characteristics as well as their less good and even bad ones. To do the best for your country you need your eyes open and your brain working in the same way.

Calendargirl Tue 15-Oct-19 17:58:43

I agree that our weather is variable, but ....

We don’t suffer from huge droughts, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, typhoons etc, etc.

We are a lot more fortunate than many parts of the world.

Be grateful for what we have,

Gonegirl Tue 15-Oct-19 18:00:28

That is very true Calendargirl. Long may it continue. And for our grandchildren, and their children.

grapefruitpip Tue 15-Oct-19 18:03:36

Nobody puts Pip in the corner.

I don't care, I have never felt any sense of patriotism ,ever.

grapefruitpip Tue 15-Oct-19 18:06:46

One of the min drivers for people wishing to come here is the widespread use of the English language. Whether it be a left over from our colonial past or something people have heard on the radio or the spread of the internet or the complexity of such languages as Swedish....the UK appeals.

Either that or we a soft touch and they come here to take our jobs and move up the council house list.

Gonegirl Tue 15-Oct-19 18:09:06

Were you never in the Girl Guides? Never sang Jerusalem?

Are you not old enough to remember Saturday morning pictures, and the singing of "There'll always be an England". Loved that song!