bloody whinging royals

Harry made a mammoth mistake when he broadcast . what became heard by the world, that Meghan had no family.Was he so naïve ?Did he expect her family to sit back and ignore.? Is this why although her past had nothing to do with the present he did not have the courtesy to visit Meghans father.Be it on his own head that no matter how many tears he sheds over what he appears to see as a witch hunt against him and his wife people don't forget and the kindest thing he can do is to shut up He has dug a hole stop digging.

maddyone

I’m sure this has been brought up before. Yes, Meghan has been divorced once, but another marriage having been annulled? I don’t think so.

But you don’t know Calendargirl, and it has been very widely publicised in the press. An annulment isn’t considered as serious as a divorce, and there’s certainly no argument about that.

Meghan is simply not making Harry happy, that’s the nub of it. She actually appears to be making Harry unhappy.

I know what an annulment is, but still don’t think she has had one. Who with? When? I have never read it in any news or gossip columns.

When she moved to Canada she was with a celebrity chef for 2 years but not read they married , she left him when she met Harry.

Its not publicised anywhere in the press about an annulment.
The 'Enquirer' (a tabloid) made it a headline, but nowhere else at all is it taken up.

As she is 36 then quite natural there has been relationships, short and long.

The name of the man is Joe Guiliano, and he was apparently a lawyer, an entertainment lawyer.
You are correct Annie, at Meghan’s age she is bound to have had several relationships, long or short.

“Becoming a mother has been a struggle”
I’m baffled by that comment. Harry is clearly overjoyed. They have nannies and nurses and Archie is healthy and happy.
What part of being a mother is a struggle for Megan?

Its a struggle for lots of people, for lots of reasons.

Plenty of examples on here, of grandparents practically fetching up their adult children's offspring because its so difficult for the parents to manage.

But how many who bring up grandchildren who have nannies, can go to Eaton etc

Blooming heck trisher I agree 100% with you again.

God help some of the grandchildren if so many display so little understanding, compassion and basic human understanding when the kids are under undue stress. But I suppose it will be argued that their grandchildren are better than H&M until ..........

If you do not try to understand others why should anyone be concerned with you? However some of us mugs would be concerned so maybe you should join us.

I don't think that would make much difference to someone who finds it emotionally difficult.
That's like the old "What have you got to be depressed about?" question.

Plenty of people who should have no reason to be depressed, are, have been, and will be.

It's fascinating to read everyone's opinions on this topic.

I am not a big fan of the RF either but having read this post decided to watch the program to see what all the fuss is about.

What really struck me is the strange way they handle their baby. Neither of them seemed very at ease holding him, maybe nanny does most of the work!
It also struck me that the biggest difference between W and H is that W married into a stable loving family when he married Kate. They both seem to be getting on fine.

H and M both come from dysfunctional families on numerous levels - 2 troubled people coming together does not always make a good relationship.

My mother died when I was 3 which made for a very tough childhood, but you can't keep using that as an excuse all your adult life.

SirChenjin they may have access to good PR people but unfortunately a rapid turnover of such staff does not help.

The 'old guard' who were steeped in royal protocol were of no help to Diana either when she married into the RF.
It's not just a family, it is a 'firm' as HM calls it and all newcomers should have a period of rigorous training if they are to carry out duties and to learn what is expected of them in public. I don't know if that happens.

Tim Lawrence knew the ropes before he married Anne.

Diana was use to royal protocol from a toddler. Part of the Windsor circle.

Tim Lawrence knew the ropes before he married Anne.

...and although people were unkind and called her "waity Katie", William and Kate took their time and made sure that Kate knew what she was letting herself in for. Unfortunately Harry rushed everything.

There has always been a tremendous outpouring of love and support and understanding towards William and Harry for what they have suffered, and I think there still is ..... but Harry and Meghan have brought some of the criticisms over the last year onto themselves with poor decisions and poor behaviour. I shouldn't think anyone is any less compassionate regarding Harry's grief or mental health - just expressing opinions about things they could have done much better.

But that's not the same as becoming a royal by marriage, a future Queen (Diana, not Meghan) and always subject to press scrutiny.

Playing with the royals as a child, a teenager, when they were off duty and away from the public gaze would be just like playing with other children from their own privileged background.

Kate also has an extremely supportive and loving family who are always there for them all.

I wonder why there’s such a high turnover of staff? You’d have thought these world renowned PR agencies would be desperate to step in and help them. Both H&M have been in this spotlight game long enough to know the importance of brand management, they really shouldn’t be getting it so wrong - which makes me wonder if it’s all planned and a move away from royal duties to enable them to mix in celebrity/global ambassador type circles.

Kate has two parents, who seem to love each other and their children and to have provided their children with a stable, loving family throughout their childhood. That support is obviously ongoing.
The press criticised, picked at Kate, called her waitie Katie, suggested William should move on etc. Criticised her mother for being "an air hostess", expressed snobbery about their business etc etc. Then when the couple reconciled, moved on to saying she was too thin, when she was pregnant, criticised her for playing hockey in high heel - who did she think she was putting her baby at risk etc etc ? She was on royal duties of course.
H and M had something of a whirlwind romance, marriage and baby. They hadn't had several years together including meeting at 18 when first at university. I'm shocked that so many are still criticising this young couple, who are clearly struggling currently. Leave them alone and let's hope neither of them end up needing intensive or long term input for their mental health. I do hope they aren't reading this, or the many other awful comments on line.

Trisher - many thanks for your post.

I get the feeling that nothing is planned or properly thought through.

Whatever the job, everyone needs a period of training even if qualified. Their job, being on public display all the time, requires more training and knowledge of protocol than someone doing a job which does not have such a high public profile.
This is not just the Royal Family, this is GB on display to the world.

Good post Iam64.

I am not criticising them, I am saying that I think they need more help from staff experienced in royal protocol. I hope they get this and hope that they take heed.

It all started so well but I think they are floundering.

And, just to add, I would not criticise Meghan's previous acting career because, like many jobs or professions, royal duties are a form of acting - they just cannot go out and say or do just what they like. They must act the part in public.

Being an actress should be an advantage.

Callistemon Diana’s grandmother was lady in waiting to the queen mother. Her father was equerry to the Queen, her brother in law , when she married was assistant private secretary to the Queen, later private secretary, surely they were able to advise Diana