bloody whinging royals

I'd say it was a sign of the times, but Kate and Williams haven't gone down this 'woe is me' route.

Looking back over the years there's been a lot that's happened to the RF . The Queen having to have a chat with a cigarette smoking interloper in her bedroom.

Anne almost being kidnapped.

Charles being shot at and hardly blinking.

They've all had their fair share of animosity on social media.

Not sure why H&M feel the need to open up so much. I assume it's damage limitation.

They've demanded privacy, quite rightly if that's what they want, but can't start crying if nobody's asked if she's OK.

And I'm sure they will have done.

Don't think I'll be watching this programme

I would say I am a Royalist but when I saw the two clips I actually cringed!

Yes Meghan has a new role, a new marriage and a new baby but for goodness sake they have help coming out the wazzoo! She’s not an impoverished young women, living in rented accommodation living hand to mouth.

Millions of women all over the world manage- she needs to put her big girl pants on and get on with too.

I feel the same about Harry. Undoubtedly traumatised by the loss of his mother at a young age, but he’s not the first and he won’t be the last.

They could retire from public life if it is so hard ....ah but wait.....would that stop the money train.

I find it almost impossible to feel sympathetic to their ‘plight’ .

Anniebach. You may be correct in your last post.

We only know what the press tell us, or what H & M say in interviews, we have no idea of the actual editing process and what is left out and what comment is either in or out of context.

Can it be that because Diana was so popular with many because she spoke of all her problems to the world that this couple have decided to do the same ?

I always find it very odd how people like to play "Good cop, bad cop" with the RF. There's always someone who is the bad guy and another who is a saint. It was Charles and Diana for a bit, Queen and Phil before, Queen and Princess Margaret for a bit, now it's Kate and Will and Meghan and Harry. No one really knows what is going on in any of their lives. In any case it's all largely irrelevant. Now if we did get rid of them and actually set up as I once suggested a RF It's a knockout, in K&W and M&H we'd have ideal rival teams.

I lost my F when I was 11.
No welfare state then, we lived in poverty, my mother did three jobs every day so that she could manage.
It made her a very hard and bitter woman, so I had so much to deal with.
It coloured my whole life in some respects but I got on with it and still am doing.
I didn't ever talk about it, not many people now know.

I don’t feel any animosity towards them - I don’t know them. I’m just utterly fed up of hearing 2 adults in their mid thirties who lead incredibly privileged lives complaining about how difficult things are for them. Have they any idea of the sort of difficulties millions experience every day in this country?? Both H&M have been in the public eye for so long that you’d have thought they’d have got this PR thing down to a T but instead they appear to believe their own self importance as global ambassadors for various causes and they get their media image very wrong - as members of the RF they really have very limit functions while they’re on that payroll. I feel hugely sympathetic towards Harry (and every other child who loses a parent) but there does come a point in your working life when you need to put that to one side - they really need to get some brand advice and start to minimise the damage things like their private jet travel and banana messages do.

I really for the life of me can’t see why they need to make things so complicated - keep a low profile, turn up to some openings and smile and chat to the crowd, post some cute pictures of Archie (which include his face as normal people do) on your Instagram, use your own millions to renovate a new house you decided you fancied, and don’t get involved in PR stunts like writing on bananas or giving barefoot speeches on the environment. Easy peasy.

Isn't it so much easier to have actual people to rail against rather than an unforgiving disease or failed system?

Those who throw themselves into raising money for cancer or mental health charities on behalf of loved ones are probably inwardly screaming at the unfairness of it all but are attempting to help themselves by helping others.

Grief is a miserable process. Harry must stop using Diana as a stick to beat others. If Meghan is getting negative press this is not the way to turn things around.

If the programme was filmed in Africa what did her struggles of being a new mother have to do with their visit to Africa

Catherine hasn’t told the world of the pressure from the press before her marriage, her morning sickness through three pregnancies .

They need to separate their private lives from their public lives.

Harry will be claiming he has post natal depression next

I don't agree that it was only a drunk driver that killed Diana. All those flashing paparazzi lights must have had a big part in it. Harry probably still hates drunk drivers and press photographers.

I think Harry's emotions are all over the place at the moment, partly because of the losing his mother at such a young age and all the trappings that went with that, but mainly because he is head over heels in love with his wife and new baby.

Why not cut him some slack? He's obviously dong his best.

I agree with Merlotgran it is only Meghan & Harry who are so annoying with their complaints. I think the immediate members of the Royal Family do a good job.

Many people are scarred by losing a parent at a young age, my younger brother was a year older than Harry when Dad died. OK he didn't have to grieve in the world spotlight but his 'going off the rails' meant being expelled from school and bumming around in a hippy commune.

But.....he turned his own life around, studied and worked hard and made a success of his career. He is the most generous man I know and supports mental health charities amongst others.

I cannot spare a smidgeon of sympathy for H&M's self pity when so many people are really struggling. It's called real life and Harry is mocking those who find it hard to even get out of bed every day with his crocodile tears which have only appeared since his marriage (funny, that!)

He also needs reminding that it was a drunk driver who killed his mother. She courted the press!

The program was filmed in Africa, a documentary of their trip.

She may be struggling with her chosen new life, he is damaged.

Why do they need to tell the world ? Share problems with family and friends not tv cameras.

They had a successful visit to Africa, as soon as they came home they announced they were suing the press, this brought
criticism.

Now a tv programme where they need to tell the world they are troubled .

paddyann - whether the interview was shown first last or never was not her decision, it was the decision of the programme makers.

If she refused to answer questions she would be condemned for being secretive, she answers questions and is condemned for being whinging , if she tried to gloss over her feelings she would be condemned for lying

Another one offering support to the comments by GrannyGravy and OldWoman.
The level of animosity shown to this young couple by older women on this site shocks me.
Hands up anyone who never made mistakes, who has the kind of adult children who never get things wrong, become emotional etc.
Harry lost his mother at the key developmental stage. He'd grown up with the backdrop of his parents failing marriage, awful details of that being on the front page of the papers. I won't go on because it's clear those who have no compassion for him and have even less compassion for his wife won't change their views.
I'm relieved my family and friendship circle continue to support each other and any of us who are struggling - even more relieved that we can do this without having to respond to interview questions when all we want to do is hide away. We're also in the position of being able to take time away from work if we're wobbling.

I dont know about you WWM2 but I dont broadcast my problems to everyone I meet in the street so why would they want the whole world to know.Thats if you can call it problems in the context of the world as it is now .
Last night I switched on the news to see if there was any coverage of the horrors on Barcelonas streets.....first item was Meghan whining about her life !!WHEN was that or when should that be headline news? Shes a middle aged woman who knew what she wanted and now she has it she's decided its not what she wants after all....well tough luck ...as my late mother would have said she made her bed so she needs to lie in it adn realise that in comparison with MILLIONS all over the UK she's a very lucky overprivileged woman.Her 4 private jet flights in 11 days would feed a family for a year or more .

oldwoman

I’m with you on this one.

I am a republican and would get rid of the RF and more particularly what they represent in the blink of an eye, but I am also human and am appalled at the lack of humanity being shown on this thread.

Harry wasn't giggling he was trying not to cry! He said he found the awards more emotional now that he was a parent and that this time last year only he and Meghan knew that she was pregnant.

In a small clip of the programme to be shown on Sunday? he says that every time he sees a camera flash it reminds him of'how his mother died. He lost his mother when he was a young boy, no money or luxury can replace her.

Both of them are involved with various charities, we only get to see/know about what they choose or the press get wind of.

They do have a luxurious life, but wealth doesn't equate to health and happiness.

It is heartening to see so many GNs showing sympathy for a woman who has married, moved to a new country, had a child and may be suffering from post natal depression - all whilst being in the media spotlight.

I have no strong feeling about the RF one way or the other but I do have a modicum of human kindness and can't understand the intense dislike of this woman - who incidentally no GN actually knows

The thing to be clear about here is that grief is NOT a mental illness.

Grief is a perfectly natural response to the death of a loved one, and it's very wrong to confuse it with genuine mental illness.

Harry and Meghan seem to on a very slippery slope at the moment as in everything they say seems to be about them - how hard done by they are - how hard their life is, and it's extraordinary that they appear to have no awareness of how ridiculous all this whinging comes across to the rest of us.

This couple are clearly in need of guidance, but it seems as if other royals and aides are reluctant to say anything.

They could go back to their A lister buddies and live an A lister life in america behind gates and walls in a luxury coddled A lister bubble

But he insists that he MUST follow Di's footsteps. He hates working royal life. He is not cut out for it. He regularly tantrums against it. Butbhe has decided that he HAS to do it " 'cause Di!"

I wonder if Megan has heard the saying: be careful what you wish for ?
Here's some free advice Harry & Megan: when in hole, stop digging.

He was emotional because he was remembering Meghan telling him she was pregnant at the time of the last Child Awards. I assume he giggled because he was a little embarrassed.

It may be difficult for people to understand but no amount of privilege will make your life easier if you are struggling to cope with your mental health.

I do think they should maybe walk away from the royal family if Harry is finding life so hard, it will just radiate on to his wife and child if he carries on in this way.