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Boris Johnson and his lies

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Dinahmo Sat 19-Oct-19 15:19:29

The independent think tank UK in a Changing Europe has today found that Johnson's deal would reduce GDP per capita by between 2.3% and 7% over the next decade. This compares with May's deal where the estimate was between 1.9% and 5.5%. They also suggest that a deal would hit public finances by £16bn and £49bn.

Today in parliament Johnson promised that high standards on workers rights an environmental protections will be maintained.

The political declaration can enter UK law but it is only a statement of intent and he can therefore promise the ERG that, if he wins the next election, he will set aside the political declaration and pivot towards deregulation and a sweetheart deal with Trump. The purpose of the ERG is to deregulate at home in order to strike trade deals with the US and emerging markets.

Would someone please explain why he should now be trusted when he has lied throughout the whole of his career. After all, leopards don't change their spots. It would take too long to list all his lies, but here's some, as a reminder:

1. When suspended from the cable car across the Thames, the mechanism apparently failed. Of course, it was deliberately stopped and he claimed it failed for a good photo opportunity.

2. In his manifesto for the London Mayor election he promised that he would ensure that there would be manned ticket offices at every train station. he then agreed to widespread closures in order to fund 24 hour tube trains

3. Also in his manifesto he promised to eradicate rough sleeping - it doubled during his tenure

4. He lied about the reason for proroguing parliament

5. He repeated his lie about the EU regulating the shape of bananas

6. He lied about there being no press when he was at GOS Hospital

Now for the money wasted whilst mayor on vanity projects:

1. Feasibility study into the Garden Bridge - £52 million

2. Cable car £24 million

3. Boris bikes £225 million (original idea Ken Livingstone but BJ implemented it)

4. Water cannon £323,000 - not allowed under UK law, unsold and now scrapped

5. Estuary airport feasibility study £5.2 million

6. Olympic stadium conversion to football pitch for West Ham - £305 million. The club was supposed to contribute £153 million but in the end it only paid £15 million and now pays annual rent of £2.5 million.

7. Routemaster hybrid buses £321.6 million - superseded by the introduction of electric buses. It's USP is now defunct because the doors at the rear "hop on hop off" platforms are closed in moving traffic (and that includes at walking pace)

A few of these projects had small amounts of sponsorship money but most of the costs were funded by the tax payer

varian Sat 26-Oct-19 11:12:16

EU president Juncker says Boris Johnson lied during Brexit referendum.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-news-latest-eu-juncker-referendum-campaign-a9169936.html

David Cameron told him not to intervene but he now wishes he had done because the lies of Johnson and others should have been challenged.

SirChenjin Sat 26-Oct-19 11:06:10

Hot post too soon there - Of the two fingered sort

SirChenjin Sat 26-Oct-19 11:05:38

Perhaps I’m just nervous that they’ll try and stymie it in some way, forcing further parliamentary debate or vote, or some spurt of legal challenge. I just don’t see them doing what’s required of them without some kind of grandiose gesture.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Oct-19 10:59:02

On Tuesday, the EU will announce the extension to A50.

Johnson can’t then crash out.

We will not be leaving in the 31st October.

Daisymae Sat 26-Oct-19 10:52:10

Yes, sirchenjin - just thinking that's Johnson's style - creating chaos - letting others sort out the consequence. The important thing is that they get what they want.

SirChenjin Sat 26-Oct-19 10:44:36

It would not surprise me at all Daisy - this lot are playing dirty politics and it’s all about trying to outsmart and outmanoeuvre Parliament and the courts, as opposed to working with colleagues across the benches to get the best deal for the whole of the UK. The most shambolic, arrogant and deceitful bunch to have been in power in recent memory.

Daisymae Sat 26-Oct-19 10:38:19

Anyone else think that Johnson's gang have something up their sleeves? Thinking that they might just crash out next week and be dammed?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Oct-19 08:21:58

crystal tax payers money means nothing to Johnson

Boris Johnson wasted £53m on a bridge. He gave his 'technology advisor' £126k of undeclared taxpayers money. He bought three unnecessary water cannons for £320k, which were then scrapped for £11k.

That is a couple of examples of his profligacy at the tax payers expense and to further his own ends and profile.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Oct-19 08:18:32

No one believed him when he said that workers rights will be protected, but now we have evidence

Sam Coates Sky
@SamCoatesSky
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Great leak DexEU document from ⁦@PickardJE⁩ showing plans to diverge on worker rights from EU standards

Worth reading... ft.com/content/5eb0944e-f67c-11e9-9ef3-eca8fc8f2d65?shareType=nongift

crystaltipps Sat 26-Oct-19 08:14:06

Plus Javids Brexit 50p now halted. What tosh are they trying to sell us?

crystaltipps Sat 26-Oct-19 04:17:14

The government have cancelled their £100m “get ready for Brexit on 31st October” advertising campaign. Anyone think that was taxpayers money well spent?

Labaik Fri 25-Oct-19 23:16:26

Do you think there are people out there that are impressed by his public school language? Surprised he didn't call Corbyn a 'big girl's blouse'...

Whitewavemark2 Fri 25-Oct-19 18:42:16

He is morphing U.K. politics into USA politics.

varian Fri 25-Oct-19 18:35:25

I had hoped that Johnson could be booted out of Downing Street ASAP, but on reflection I can see that it might be better for him to stay long enough for his pitiful incompetence to be seen clearly even by the most brainwashed brexiters.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 25-Oct-19 18:32:10

Dear oh dear

Johnson has cancelled his strike.

What a surprise.

There are reports of unrest, splits and strong disagreement among ministers.

SirChenjin Fri 25-Oct-19 17:21:28

Apparently Jeremy Corbyn has to “man up” and agree to a GE.

How old is BJ exactly?? His posturing, lying, foot stamping, arm waving and petulance is the sort of behaviour that belongs in the infants’ playground.

varian Fri 25-Oct-19 14:04:06

The Brexit deal negotiated by Johnson is expected to sacrifice as much as 6.7% of lost GDP growth over the next 15 years, or as much as £130bn that the UK economy would grow by if Britain stayed in the EU.

Although the prime minister has refused to publish a detailed impact assessment, economists said estimates drawn up a year ago by the government contained a scenario similar to his deal, which envisions striking a limited free-trade deal with the EU. Johnson has hinted he expects to press Brussels for a “Canada-minus” trade deal, which would be more limited in scope than Canada’s free-trade agreement with the EU.

The government analysis, compiled at the time of Theresa May’s deal, indicated that the former prime minister’s deal was worth as much as 3.9% in lost growth.

A no-deal Brexit would cost as much as 9.3% in foregone growth, while no option was better for GDP growth than remain

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/25/how-has-brexit-vote-affected-uk-economy-october-verdict

Whitewavemark2 Fri 25-Oct-19 09:04:06

None of it will affect him.

My daughter has lost her job - it is going to France, along with hundreds of others in her company.

yggdrasil Fri 25-Oct-19 09:01:29

Yesterday Johnson offered a GE before Christmas if Parliament agreed to rush the bill through without taking too much time.
I saw the smirk on his face when he said it. It is all a game to him, never mind what it does to the country or we who live here :-((

Whitewavemark2 Fri 25-Oct-19 08:56:17

Before the Johnson shambolic premiership, all Prime Ministers respected parliamentary procedure and dutifully turned up when requested by the Liaison committee.

Not Johnson though. He attitude towards parliamentary procedure is becoming more and more obvious by the day.

Johnson knows he wouldn’t survive beyond the first couple of questions, so has suggested that he might attend perhaps in 5 or 6 months time.

Such disregard for our institutions needs calling out.

Nonnie Thu 24-Oct-19 12:04:41

Just heard that the agenda for parliament for next week does not include the GE or the withdrawal agreement. What happened to Boris's 'Get it Done'

Whitewavemark2 Thu 24-Oct-19 11:54:18

More lies

Robert Saunders
@redhistorian
The Conservative Press Office has tweeted repeatedly that Johnson's new deal has "passed Parliament". It either does not understand the legislative process or is deliberately spreading misinformation. The WAB passed its first key legislative stage but has not "passed Parliament".

Whitewavemark2 Thu 24-Oct-19 11:23:51

Latest

DowningStreetsource

States that there is no split in cabinet over whether to hold an election.

Not true if course.

We’ve heard from members of the cabinet who says that there is a split.

Mind you they seem to be conveniently forgetting that it isn’t in their gift.

Nonnie Thu 24-Oct-19 10:59:16

Whitewavemark2 Thu 24-Oct-19 10:28:28 good quote.

I would like to understand why MPs are not thoroughly embarrassed? I have seen so many videos of them saying one thing when it suits and the opposite on a different occassion. Not so long ago they would have been called out and possibly forced to resign.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 24-Oct-19 10:30:39

I agree with this

Thomas James
@ThomasJ58805552
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Peter Oborne duffed up the media establishment big time on C4 News for their supine treatment of Number 10. None of the establishment drones was willing to go on and refute him. Peston, Kuenssberg, why so shy? Normally we can't shut you up.