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For brexiters only please.

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aprilrose Sun 20-Oct-19 15:53:29

I would just like one thread for brexiters only please.

I voted leave. I would vote leave again and again and again. There has been nothing to change my mind. I have been hardened by the views of remainers.

I would really like to talk to other brexit minded posters.
Thanks.

grapefruitpip Sat 26-Oct-19 19:43:05

*Despite asking for specific reasons for remaining on the other thread, all I have got has been generalisations and news speak, such as wanting to still travel in Europe.
Would you care to give some concise reasons for remaining?*

I gave mine, not the most politically astute or intelligent but I tried. One poster, Opal has given her reasons for supporting leave.

Joelsnan Sat 26-Oct-19 19:42:01

varian
I am sure if I could be bothered (which I can’t), I could find a ‘Leaver Now’ tweet.

varian Sat 26-Oct-19 19:37:11

Just have a look at the reasons ex-leavers have changed their minds.

twitter.com/RemainerNow

Jaycee5 Sat 26-Oct-19 18:53:53

Dinahmo Maybe if you had done some basic research, you wouldn't need to keep asking.
There are plenty of publications which filled in the gaps of the daily papers like Prospect, This Week and online sites like OffGuardian that regularly had articles from both sides of the issue setting out factually the pros and cons of staying or leaving. I have put up links in the past but no one bothered to discuss them intelligently or without abuse so, like most Leavers here, I gave up.
No one owes you an explanation and I am confused as to why you believe that you have the right to demand it from strangers. Being rude and patronising is hardly going to make people feel keen to discuss it. That was rather the point of the OP in the first place.
Like Joelsnan I have come across people who think that they won't be able to travel to Europe again.
Talking about converting people is more likely to have the opposite effect.

Joelsnan Sat 26-Oct-19 16:30:29

Dinahmo

Despite asking for specific reasons for remaining on the other thread, all I have got has been generalisations and news speak, such as wanting to still travel in Europe.
Would you care to give some concise reasons for remaining?

I agree there have been many changes lies and misinformation since then.

lemongrove Sat 26-Oct-19 15:18:42

Remainers need to keep trying to convert others because they don’t understand that anyone can have different thoughts on leaving the EU than they do themselves.I also believe they are genuinely frightened of life outside the EU bloc, and of doing anything differently.
If we are ever allowed to leave (!) then perhaps in a few years they will see that the sky hasn’t fallen in, and in fact the UK is doing very well.

humptydumpty Sat 26-Oct-19 14:56:33

grin wwmk2

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Oct-19 14:14:35

Looking for a job?

Pantglas2 Sat 26-Oct-19 13:47:52

Maybe Dinahmo, but only a zealot thinks like that to my mind!

Dinahmo Sat 26-Oct-19 13:37:26

Pantglas2 Perhaps we feel sorry for you and that you need converting - just like Saul on the road to Damascus.

Despite the regular pleas on various of the threads for reasons why you all want to Leave we still don't know. please don't tell me that some of you told us three years ago. A lot of us weren't on Gransnet then and there have been many changes, lies and misinformation since then.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 26-Oct-19 13:27:12

Soon be the 31st October
????

Urmstongran Sat 26-Oct-19 12:44:42

That’s so true Pantglas2

Pantglas2 Sat 26-Oct-19 12:43:08

I’ve noticed that brexiters don’t seem to feel the need to ‘convert’ people in the same way that remainers appear to, going on all threads trying to gather us all in to the EU fold!

Joelsnan Sat 26-Oct-19 11:52:03

Dinahmo
You will find fewer ‘leave’ posts on this thread because we are less stressed and more confident in our decision and therefore do not have to repeating ourselves to get reaffirmation from like minded people as happens on the other thread.
If you look back, most of the time a leaver has responded on this thread is in response to a remain post.

Dinahmo Sat 26-Oct-19 11:43:15

Lemongrove My original comment was made when responding to GGMK3 about why certain groups of people vote Tory and as an example of someone who didn't eat leftovers because he could afford not to.

At any rate you have read the Remainers thread so thank you. It shows that we have other things to think about, such as good food.

lemongrove Fri 25-Oct-19 12:12:28

Dinahmo you mean like the remainer thread, which devoted a page to bread and butter pudding and aberrant apostrophes? ?

sarahellenwhitney Fri 25-Oct-19 12:09:14

yggdrasil
Disagree as you wish however as an ardent leaver my reason for leaving is to give hardworking people who want to give their children, nothing wrong with that, what I was able to achieve pre EU years.Able to afford our own albeit it small own home both H and self worked although having two small children.Not reliant on food banks were there any ?did we need them?
I welcome comments/opinions from those who are, or know others 21C having to rely on food banks, cannot afford their own home, losing their jobs but what must be the worst, homeless and living on the streets.

Dinahmo Fri 25-Oct-19 11:38:48

Looking back to the original post, there is little to write in response other than "I agree" endless times. I would think that you Brexiteers should be thankful to us Remainers for giving you something to respond. Without us this thread would have been finished a long time ago.

lemongrove Fri 25-Oct-19 11:33:24

Looks like GGM3 has taken umbrage ? ( nothing new there).
Moving on......... wonder what will happen now, will Corbyn and Co agree to the election they claim they want?
We need a GE,it’s the only way now.

Joelsnan Fri 25-Oct-19 11:27:01

Where is the insult?

I would suggest childish arguments more the insult.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 25-Oct-19 11:26:54

Before the "keyboard warriors" hit post, they should try reading what was actually written. This is pathetic.

newnanny Fri 25-Oct-19 11:19:15

I have not insulted anyone and I would ask you to point out where you think I have been insulting.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 25-Oct-19 11:17:01

I have not been on frequently newnanny and have no wish to be. I am certainly not "persuaded" by the childish arguments and insults. Who would be? Stop that and I for one will not be back.

newnanny Fri 25-Oct-19 11:12:46

Maybe as Remainers are on this Brexiteer threat so frequently they are being persuaded that leaving is the way to go, and that taking taking back charge of our money and doing trade deals around the world will not preclude us from scientific and security arrangements.

GracesGranMK3 Fri 25-Oct-19 11:01:41

You haven't "touched a nerve" at all Urmstongran. That would imply, not only that those of us who don't want to leave are unpatriotic, but that we agree that is the case.

Just as so often happens, your argument comes down go you just insulting this who don't agree. I was objecting to and disagreeing with your insults although I am aware that is your style of discussion.