For brexiters only please.

I already said, Goodnight. It's all absolutely horrible and I need to get off this damn thing.

Hard to credit that three years down the line, the sore losers are still demanding explanations from anyone who had the temerity to vote to leave! It’s quite funny in a pathetic kind of way.
When will they stop I wonder? When we are out of the EU,officially perhaps? After all, what would be the point then?
It reminds me of the Scottish couple we met on holiday, who told us of the ‘bad loser’ syndrome displayed by fellow villagers after the Scottish referendum and how unpleasant those people had been.
Human nature....red in tooth and claw.

grapefruitpip
I think the EU is an unwieldy, costly organisation with many faults. On balance I would prefer the UK to be part of it

Why?

aprilrose Good try but it you have at least shown the nastiness that Leavers have to contend with, even when just asking for a chat.
Demands that we explain ourselves, hyperbolic accusations of 'not being worth it' (whatever that means), etc.
Laibak why use works like 'tribalisation'. The country is very divided but part of that is that it is difficult for Leave voters who aren't the kind to call Remain voters 'Remoaners' or bitch about immigrants to have a civilised conversation without being abused. Tory voters have their own conversations as do Labour or Lib Dem voters. Why do you begrudge those of us who would just have like one thread out of thousands to discuss our experiences. Remain voters have a way of bullying Leave voters off threads. I don't bother to join in those conversations any more and they just get taken over by the Remain side so this was not really such a big ask.
Joelsnan Good post.

Nan your examples are so very different from a political subject thread. Although I really appreciate the beauty of quilting and admire the skill and creativity that goes into it, it’s hardly likely that high emotions would be stirred between quilters and non quilters

identify as a remainer ?????

I think the EU is an unwieldy, costly organisation with many faults. On balance I would prefer the UK to be part of it.

How does that make me buy in to tribalism.

grapefruitpip
You identify as a remainer don’t you? Surely that means you too are ‘buying in’ to the partisanism and tribalism.

dear me, what a sad state of affairs, partisan little gangs of people with their own special names....Leaver/Remainer.

How on earth can a Remainer despise a Leaver, how ridiculous.

I think the tribalisation of it is a bit worrying; an extension of what is happening in the rest of the country.

If I decided to start a thread for those who were interested in quilting I would expect quilters to join in the conversation. Another example those who are interested in astronomy. Like minded people would get together and discuss this science.

So why is it causing such a problem for Leavers to get together and discuss their hopes and fears ?

If I saw a thread on cake baking, which is of no interest to me, I would steer clear of it. So why do Remainers want to mix with us Leavers ? They’ve made it clear they despise us (not All of them, just a few).

GracesGranMK3
you may have won a battle in 2016 but you hell as like haven't yet won the war

Very confrontational talk.

BTW, Do you know any other ‘civilised’ country where:
In a democratic referendum the largest % of actual voters are prevented from having the result of the referendum enacted by the losers?

That a small % of the overall population marches in a bid to overthrow democracy?

To an outsider, especially one living in a dictatorship, this must beggar belief. But hey ho, its true and its the UK, the supposed birthplace if democracy.

Ok, well those are my honest thoughts. That's all.

GracesGranMK3
Can you elaborate why you are so sure that by remaining in the EU you are (without doubt), securing yours and your children's futures?
BTW, do you consider yourself Middle, Upper class or what?

grapefruitpip
1. To share vital information regarding security
2. Educational qualifications which are Europe wide
3. Investment in deprived areas from EU funding
4. Not being a very small country but being part of something bigger
5. To enhance our lives by being linked up with others.

Informed Brexit voters know:
1. Vital information regarding security is shared worldwide it is not EU specific.

2. UK educational qualifications are generally equivalenced worldwide. The same cannot be said for many EU qualifications, even French and German.

3. The EU does not have its own money. All grants made by EU are made from taxes you and I send to them. The EU then skim off a large % for admin purposes, then UK has to submit a bid to receive part of our own money back. The amounts we have been receiving has been declining over the years as more money is diverted to increase the industrial bases in Eastern Europe.

4. The area of a country is irrelevant. UK is one of the big movers and shakers in the world. Founding member of UN, Nato. Centre if worldwide banking Industry, Member of the Commonwealth group of countries etc.etc. Much of the technology industries emanate from UK i.e. management of bandwidth and satellites. This is part of the reason EU want to keep EU, because of its global influence.

5. We would not be cut adrift from Europe. Brits have and always will continue to live, travel and work in Europe, as they also live, travel and work worldwide.

My reasons don't have to stand your's or anyone else's scrutiny Gracesgran and it isn't for you or anyone else to say whether my reasons for voting leave, or the reasons of any leavers were or were not based on "truth or reasoned judgement".

They certainly do if you are determined to make my future and my children's and grandchildren's prospects less secure and with fewer possibilities. You will end up having to answer to those whose lives you damage in a far deeper way than on a GN post. You will be remembered, just as others have been remembered for the acts you have undertaken that will ruin people's lives.

I am also totally within my right to oppose what you want if I see that sort of future ahead of us. Indeed, I would be lacking in my duty to those around me if I didn't. And now we hear there won't be an impact assessment after Johnson and his entitled cronies first tried to stop parliament in its proper duty of scrutiny.

To use the language favoured by those who, just as the OP and the Tories use it to set about excluding half the country and denying free speech and parliament's rights, you may have won a battle in 2016 but you hell as like haven't yet won the war.

Leaver grans should have their own dedicated forum where they can express each slogan for each other's pleasure.

E.g MAKE BRITAIN GREAT AGAIN

taKE Back CONTROL

But they won so we've got to get over it [oh; I'm forgetting; I'm a BAB today so I'm on the winning side; hurrah...].

Eek fellow Remainers our conspiracy has been sussed.

I actually think it's most unair to have a thread for one particular group.

Unfair and unkind actually.

1. To share vital information regarding security
2. Educational qualifications which are Europe wide.
3. Investment in deprived areas from EU funding.
4. Not being a very small country but being part of something bigger.
5. To enhance our lives by being linked up with others.

HQ has stopped a remain group

Probably because remain contributors hijack every other thread. Just as they have done here. Look down every political thread and its the same old names line after line.

Still waiting for someone to give me a concise reason to remain. All I have seen to date are non specific and often non Brexit related comments.

Yes Jura, somebody started one and it was pulled. It's a miserable time isn't it?

Let’s all keep our rose tinted Brexit specs on - only sees one point of view.

graperfruitpick 'HQ has stopped a remain group.'

really? Wow, when, where, why?