For brexiters only please.

Can anyone give clear concise reasoning for remaining that would convince a leave voter of the apparent error of their ways.
All I have ever seen on here are remain voters dismissing as rubbish any postings by leave voters and constantly asking for leavers to justify their decisions.
Please remainers, can you justify your decisions?

@aprilrose, It will be really good not to have to pay the EU 1 billion pounds every month and would have gone up to 17 billion had we stayed. Once we leave we will be able to spend our money how we choose.

Hardly unfounded sw, surely all remainers want a second referendum, don't they?

Opal I’m saying that you made up things about me, made lazy unfounded assumptions with no evidence base just like a true Brexiter

But leavers on this thread didn't "open up about hopes and aspirations" did they?

They claimed annoyance at remainers having the audacity to voice their opinions on a thread to which they had been instructed not to contribute. A rather silly stance since leavers had access and opportunity to provide "positive" examples of all the advantages the UK would be likely to have as a result of leaving the EU. Someone did mention several times in one post that they had "dreams" - but there was no specificity as to what those dreams might be or how they could be achieved.

Urmstongram You have made several claims as to EU regulations - re-cycling of tea bags, etc, etc, - but you have not given details of the source of this information. Maizie on the other hand has provided links to refute your claims. You then accuse her of "hounding" you. If you don't want to back up the claims you make, then don't object to being challenged, and don't present yourself as some sort of victim.

So are you saying you don't want a second referendum then sw? Blimey, you're the first remainer I've come across that doesn't want one then.

But never mind, keep up the great Brexiter tradition of just making it all up as you go along. ????

See what I mean!

Or even the thread...

Opal perhaps you would be so kind as to link to where I’ve said I’ll stamp my foot if I don’t get another referendum. In fact I’d love to know where I posted my views on a second referendum. But never mind, keep up the great Brexiter tradition of just making it all up as you go along. ????

Report me, then, Ug.

I wouldn't do this normally because I know about the T & C, but I am very cross. Perhaps you could respond on the tread in question?

Hurrah; Gove says he's triggered [triggering] operation Yellowhammer so things are getting really exciting now! Can't wait....

Urm disingenuous????? You're kidding suziewoozie, you've been goading and baiting for the whole thread, I think Urmstongran's last post was very civil and restrained, all things considered. She has far more patience with all of the shouting, bad-loser "I want another referendum or I'll stamp my foot" remainer brigade than me. There was a democratic vote, we voted to leave, get over it. Let's get it done and move on, FFS.

suziewoozie
As I said earlier, I’ll post on any thread I wish to and no poster has any right to decide who a thread is for.

Sorry but the remain cabal try to evict everyone who contradicts their view from every thread. Take a look.
I don’t give a sxxt, I can take the intimidatory snipes and I have had plenty. I have been on this site a number of years , and I have watched as quite a number of really good intelligent posters who presented good arguments being hounded off the site, by constant personal jibes and snide comments and emojis . Those who do the personal attacks go on to boast about their success. These are no better than junior school bullies and their postings only go to confirm this. I find it interesting and sad that mature women (and men) still find this acceptable behaviour.

How do you think I’m being disingenuous sw? I’m really not.

MaizieD you are hounding me! Well it feels like it as you’ve jumped on this thread to, to talk about another thread. Isn’t that against the rules?

Urm disingenuous or what? I thought you were better than that.

I think you are purposely having a dig. I do post facts.

Jesus wept, Ug!

EU won't allow teabag recycling. So untrue I can't even find anything connecting the EU with teabags. Asked you for a link. Nothing

*EU won't allow children under the age of 8 to blow up balloons*: Untrue. So I post a debunking of that straight from the EU. How more factual can you get?

*EU accounts haven't been audited for 20 years*; Untrue. They've been audited every year since 1995. Full Fact do not get things wrong

EU forces us to put VAT on Tampax. Untrue. EU stopped that in 2016.

I'm not trying to chase you from thread to thread about this but your protestations of truth telling are making my eyes pop. It's not even a question of 'different experts'. If you believe those things you've been fed lies and lapped them up.

It WAS meant to be a softer discussion on Brexit susiewoozie as it was amongst like minded voters. You are just being mean, laughing at us (and yes, already I can hear the chorus in the background ‘oh but it’s so easy to do’).

It was trying to celebrate how some of us would feel after (perhaps) a Boris deal finally gets voted through. We started to talk about opening some fizz, sparklers, sitting in a garden at 11pm on 31 October etc but again, the hyenas hijacked the thread, demanding ‘evidence’ and out of politeness I do try to respond. But once you do that, another poster jumps on you and before you know it, it’s not sweet and celebratory it’s another bear pit of gloom and despondency.

It was a polite request from aprilrose to allow a small space for like minded voters to open up - maybe about hopes and aspirations going forward - if it was allowed time to grow and breathe. Or maybe about negative (hopefully short lived) bumps in the road to independence. But the haters gonna hate.

No body can say what was wrong with us being in the EU as there was nothing wrong grandad never heard any body complain before that dreaded man called a blooming unnecessary referendum and broke our country into pieces
aprilrose there is no positivity in the state this country has been forced into there is no positivity to what you and yours are trying to do to my children and grandchildren’s lives

Uk is done now and will take decades to right so thank you for taking away peace and prosperity from us and leaving us with a cracked and shattered country and for what, to be ‘great again’ oh what a bloody laugh, about as funny as a mass funeral

Joel I don’t usually post on the threads related to Brexit. The reason I did today I’ve explained clearly and you’ve missed the point - this thread was goady and childish in the way it was set up. It deserved every single negative post it received and then some. As I said earlier, I’ll post on any thread I wish to and no poster has any right to decide who a thread is for.

suziewoozie
Nothing light hearted about this thread nor the starting of it but it’s been beautifully confirmatory has it not?

Goodness me, it certainly has. Once again a decent thread ruined by remain posters. It’s like a mycelian web, they spread and take over every political thread. Go through some of the threads and it is the same names line after line congratulating and confirming each other.
No decent debate is allowed, put a contrary position and the personal jibes and put downs flourish, What a shame.

‘A softer discussion on Brexit’ ???????

Indeed Suziewoozie

Sorry Sjc Or was it perhaps simply your opinion that amongst the minority Leavers in Scotland and N Ireland there may be some who think Boris is a hero, but of course that doesn’t mean he’s actually being hailed as a hero right across Britain (or the UK if you’re factoring in NI)?

It was just my opinion.
Sorry not to reply earlier, I was watching a documentary on knife crime in London.

You are right - ‘there may be some’ only in Scotland & NI but it was only my opinion - based on Boris’ popularity in the polls this week and pundits predicting he’s on course to win the next GE (whenever Corbyn let’s him have one).

So yes, an opinion, not a fact.

But to be honest, I thought that this was the tenet of this more gentle thread. A softer discussion on Brexit. Yet, once again it’s not allowed. Here I am spending my evening trying to provide details for Remainers. It’s wearisome to be honest.

No wonder so many Brexiteers don’t bother posting!

Indeed it has.

Nothing light hearted about this thread nor the starting of it but it’s been beautifully confirmatory has it not?