Will the fat lady sing?

Apparently, Bercow pulled out a note sent to him by Rees-Mogg when he (Bercow) stopped an attempt by May for a meaningful vote in similar circumstances. Rees-Mogg in March told Bercow: 'May I say how delighted I am that you have decided to follow precedent'

We have a parliament which isn't passing legislation because the legislation they are being asked to pass is crap and contrary to the national interest.

They are well able to do this because there is a minority government; which is doing its best to ignore and subvert the British Constitution (as it was under the previous PM, BTW). Do let me remind you, once again, GG13 that Parliament is Sovereign, not the government. That is why governments usually comprise MPs from the party which has the over all majority in Parliament, it's enormously helpful in getting their legislation through.

You only think the Speaker is not impartial because things are not going your way. But you have to understand that the Speaker is on the side of Parliament, not the government. The Speaker's job is to prevent the abuse of government power and maintain the Sovereignty of the House of Commons.

We'll have a GE when JC is good and ready. He's not going to indulge the charlatan from No. 10.

Where’s Johnson?

Bercow, just like the judges is following the law.

From some posts you might make the judgement that some people would prefer the law was flouted

Exactly!

Bercow's a star!

The Tories have only themselves to blame.

On Saturday the government could have accepted the Letwin amendment, but they were too petulant/puerile/pigheaded to do so.

The could have brought the bill to division but didnt - they flounced out.

We have a parliament which is not able to pass any legislation at all.

MPs from both sides are only interested in "grandstanding".

A speaker who is enjoying every last minute he has in the limelight. He might have commenced his career in "The Chair" as impartial, but he is certainly not ending his career as impartial.

The only way out of this stalemate is to have a GE, but Jeremy Corbyn and Jo Swinsom know that they will lose seats and are running scared.

Is it any wonder that the general public are sick of the lot of them?

You mean Bercow who has a sound knowledge of parliamentary procedure unlike the PM who either doesn't understand it or, if he does, thinks he can just ignore it....

Oh dear gg13 the tone has just dropped.

Time for a GE as soon as possible, UK cannot continue to be governed by "Bercow the Burke"

Ten days to go, go, go.....!

As an aside. The illegality of leave U.K. and it’s flouting electoral rules is being brought up in the QS..

That’s Johnson, Gove etc.

Anyone willing to go and pick the rotting fruit and vegetables for 2p. a fortnight?

Loved the challenge from Bone that suggested that Bercow could not have known whether the Prime minister f the UK was going to obey the law or not.

Blimey have we come to this??

Bercow ruled against government.

Motion not to be debated today. Repeated and disorderly to do so.

Ruling dates back to 1604 it is a

“Necessary rule to ensure the the proper use of parliaments time and proper respect for the decisions that it takes”

Yes I think that is correct. Mays was over 500 paged, and this has been added to.

I think that MPs may only be given a shortened version of 100 pages long. So they won’t even see the full version, as far as I can make out.

I’ll have a look.

What a bl**dy farce!

1000 pages? There could be anything hidden in the small print!

The Scottish court has refused to give a verdict on whether Johnson’s letter was unlawful. They have chosen instead to put it to one side as an open case.

They are in effect holding Johnson’s feet to the fire.

This afternoon

The WAB is being presented. About 1000 pages of detail that is the most important document for generations.

This is implements Brexit into domestic law. Masses to understand and critique.

JRMogg will introduce it to the HoC and lay the ground work for a second reading on Tuesday. This is where he will try to restrict time for debate on the WAB.
On Tuesday there will be a second reading of the WAb before it goes off to Committee.

If Johnson wants brexit by 31/10 he must win both today’s business statement and tomorrow’s second reading.

It is thought that he will.

At the committee stage is where parliament will try to amend with the CU a second referendum etc.

When we had referendum in 1975 there was no confirmatory vote then government just did what country mandated it to do

The result was 66% in favour of remaining, 32% against. An extremely clear result. In spite of which, some people campaigned against being 'in Europe' for the next four decades (as was their democratic right)

This time the result was very close. Which should, perhaps, have told the government that leaving was not going to be a simple thing to impose on the UK.

The fact that it is still causing so much anger and division should really be ringing warning bells. The 16 million are not convinced that leaving is a good idea. As it all goes belly up the division will grow, not be healed.

Am confused newnanny. The Scottish parliament election in 2011 was just that - not a vote on staying in the eu. Would you mind explaining your point?

I am convinced that if Keir Starker had been elected Labour leader we wouldn't be in this mess.
If only JC could be persuaded that the statesmanlike thing to do for country and party is to stand down.
Starmer as leader would be a more attractive prospect leading L.P. into a GE.

Bercow put back to 3.30

As an aside, does anyone know what happened to that vital (apparently) QS?

What humbug.

But of course we weren’t taken in were we?