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Katek Wed 23-Oct-19 12:06:57

https://www.scotsman.com/news/crime/murder-investigation-launched-as-39-found-dead-inside-a-lorry-container-1-5031147

crystaltipps Fri 25-Oct-19 18:41:43

Lets call them “people” or “humans”.

Riverwalk Fri 25-Oct-19 18:44:07

Agreed grapefruit - it's a terrible use of a word, given the circumstances.

BlueBelle Fri 25-Oct-19 19:07:39

jennifereccles travel to the camps in France and see for yourself then come back and tell me about the safety of the conditions
The poor souls were from Vietnam young people who had been promised jobs and money to start a new life and to help their families
A heart rending last text from a young lady has been found apologising to her mum and dad saying her trip overseas was a failure and that she thought she was dying as she couldn’t breathe Imagine that, imagine for just two secs jennifereccles the need to get out of poverty believing you are going to help your mum and Dad your siblings yourself to then know you have made the wrong decision and are going to die a horrible death frightened and alone Imagine the parents at home who waved her off with trepidation but believing she was starting a better life
Please open your heart and think thousands of Westerners change their country every year in hope of bettering their chances looking for a better way of life that is all these poor folks are doing trying to get a better life

GabriellaG54 Fri 25-Oct-19 19:21:46

Nonnie &Davidhs
Why not read previous posts before typing...eh? Just above your comments I have written that the driver exited his vehicle to retrieve paperwork which was in a folder inside the cab door
He must have been going to check contents against the papers and that is when he found them after opening the rear doors. It's not disputed that it was he who phone the emergency services.

Julesw Fri 25-Oct-19 19:24:49

I do wonder how not one of the poor 39 people realised that there would be no air inside the sealed container.

I heard on the news earlier that the parents of one poor girl paid over £30,000 to secure her passage here in that death trap.

Heartbreaking.

GabriellaG54 Fri 25-Oct-19 19:26:21

petra
Make sure your halo is straight when you make that call.

Callistemon Fri 25-Oct-19 19:28:32

That message was just heart-rending, Bluebelle.

I just keep wondering just how far the £30,000 their families paid to these traffickers would have gone to help set them up in a business, get a better education, in Vietnam.

I do hope the message gets through back in their home countries.

So, so sad.

BlueBelle Fri 25-Oct-19 19:30:25

gabriel do you have to practice hard to be so nasty or does it come naturally

Callistemon Fri 25-Oct-19 19:38:39

petra well done, I think we all need to be more aware and not just turn a blind eye.

GabriellaG54 Fri 25-Oct-19 19:38:59

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GabriellaG54 Fri 25-Oct-19 19:41:13

.. and would it kill you to type two more characters.
My proper name.
You're incredibly rude.

crystaltipps Fri 25-Oct-19 19:43:19

Let’s blame the victims for not being “westerners”.

grapefruitpip Fri 25-Oct-19 19:43:51

Even by your standards G, your posts are very, very low.

dimwits?

Callistemon Fri 25-Oct-19 19:43:59

Everyone abbreviates names on here, Gabriella

I don't see a problem.

Best wishes
Calli

Callistemon Fri 25-Oct-19 19:45:10

Bluebelle
Gabriel was/is an angel!

GabriellaG54 Fri 25-Oct-19 19:45:23

Nobody likes snitches, especially those who take the word and wink of a third party without knowing that it's fact, not hearsay.

Callistemon Fri 25-Oct-19 19:46:51

confused

GabriellaG54 Fri 25-Oct-19 19:54:03

Well, I do not like my real name abbreviated.
Is it your choice and I have no say in the matter?
Because ' everybody here does it', does that mean I have to follow suit?
Do you make the rules?
I think it's incredibly rude.
Can't be r'sd to type two more letters.
Tell me...if a friend, aquaintance or colleague gave their name when you first met and you shortened it, would you refuse to call them their given name even after they asked you not to umpteen times?
That just shows the level of your thinking.
If you were on fire...you can fill in the rest.

GabriellaG54 Fri 25-Oct-19 19:58:16

YOU may not see a problem but it's not your name being shortened, it's mine and I do not like it abbreviated.
Your thoughts on the matter are irrelevant.

Grandad1943 Fri 25-Oct-19 19:58:42

GabriellaG54 in regard to your post @19:21 today, trailers travelling anywhere have the goods checked at the loading point and then the vehicle is sealed either with a physical metal seal or on a digital seal.

Those seals must not be broken until the vehicle arrives on a loading dock, as the case would have to be with a refrigerated trailer.

The above begs the question with this incident, why would the driver have broken the seal at that hour of the morning when he was not even on a loading dock and there was no one else present to check the seal number against the loading/delivery sheet.

The above just does not add up, along with much more in the driver's actions of that night and the previous day(s).

GabriellaG54 Fri 25-Oct-19 20:00:12

Same old clique, same old covering each others backs. Echo park.

Grandad1943 Fri 25-Oct-19 20:01:55

GabriellaG54
?????. Please try explaining your above post???????

GabriellaG54 Fri 25-Oct-19 20:03:43

Grandad1943 I'm not interested in your lectures.
I know what I know and it's more than enough to get be by in this life.
Once I saw it was addressed to me I stopped reading.
No more...thank you very much, I'm not interested in what you have to say.

GabriellaG54 Fri 25-Oct-19 20:04:35

be by me by

Callistemon Fri 25-Oct-19 20:06:50

Gabriel isn't a very appropriate abbreviation anyway!

I never knew that we were in a clique Grandad1943!
Could be an exciting new venture for both of us