Considering voting Labour?

What I want to know with nationalisation. Who is going to manage it. I would imagine a Labour goverment would need trawl the private sector to find the talent and experience.

No one will Maizie. To much like hard work when they're used to being fed the lines they come out with.

It is amazing how short memories some people have when it comes down to facts. To blame Gordon Brown for the financial crises is just sheer prejudice. It was caused ironically by sheer greed in a capitalist financial & Banking system both in the USA & here in the UK. A number of the Hedging Funds also trying to making a killing. Greed is one of the main curses of our society, to distort the facts for political gain is immoral .

I would imagine pretty much the same, tooting; why shouldn't they if they've been doing it OK up until now (although we know that some companies spectacularly haven't been doing OK up 'til now). The main difference would be that whatever profits there are to be made will go back to the Treasury rather than as dividend to shareholders.

A no from me.

And I can't find anything in the Labour manifesto documents about abolishing the marriage allowance.

All I found was this towards the end:

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Marriage Allowance
In their October 2019 ‘Estimated cost of non-structural tax reliefs’ HMRC forecast £535m of
Marriage Allowance to be claimed under the system which allows “the transfer of 10% of the tax
free personal allowance between couples who are married or in civil partnerships”. Uplifted to
account for forecast earnings growth.

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Abolition must have been mentioned somewhere earlier.

Can someone help me out here?

Good point about nationalisation, Tooting.

There will be chaos. Law suits. p
Pensions. what about the shares that the staff own? At what price will they be paid out?

You think Brexit is complicated

Renationalisation will be a whole different ball game

Naivety is rife amongst your average Labour voter

For those of you who think that the marriage allowance is an extra allowance for married couples this is not the case. I believe there might be something like this for the very elderly and there used to be a married man’s tax allowance but this was abolished some time ago. Some of you have said that the marriage allowance is unfair and an anomaly but it is nothing extra in the way of a tax allowance it is the facility for a non tax payer to pass on £1500 of their earnings allowance to their married partner. I do this because my income is much less than the earnings allowance so I can REDUCE my earnings allowance by £1500 and it is added to the earnings allowance of my husband reducing his tax liability by £250 a year. We have a total earnings allowance of £25000 for the two of us and after the marriage allowance is applied we still have a total earnings allowance of £25000, £11000 for me and £14000 for my husband instead of £12500 each.

Andrew Marr clearly stated that the Labour Party are going to abolish this and I don’t think he would have said this if it wasn’t true. I don’t know what their rationale is for abolishing it because Angela Rayner didn’t address the question at all. She was introduced by Andrew Marr as a possible future Labour leader!

We have to hope not ( a future Labour Leader)?

Trisher the marriage allowance facility is available to those in a civil partnership too.

But not available for co-habitees. Or for anyone else sharing a home. After all why should 2 people be able to claim extra just because one of them chooses not to work?

Trisher I say again there is no element of claiming extra just giving some of your unused earnings allowance to your partner. Yes it should be applied to those living together and this may come eventually. The term ‘choosing not to work’ is a generalisation and not true because the marriage allowance can apply to working people on a low income and not paying tax. It doesn’t apply to retirees like us and some partners who do not work because they have low earning potential thus it isn’t economically viable to work and pay for child care. It also applies to some cases like my daughter-in-law who was self employed and struggling to make her business pay her a fair income.

Andrew Marr clearly stated that the Labour Party are going to abolish this and I don’t think he would have said this if it wasn’t true.

I am trying very hard to find out where this is stated in the Labour Manifesto, Jane43, or it's paper on funding it. Andrew Marr might have said it, but where is stated in those documents?

But why shouldn't any non-taxpayer pass their allowance to someone else? It's an anomaly. It needs to go. After all two people earning quite low salaries just above the tax threshhold will both pay tax. Whereas with this allowance one highly paid person can have two tax allowances simply because their partner is low paid.

Afraid I’m out too . Spend spend spend and this young ones voting him in will pick up the tab in 10 years time . Can’t see Diane as Home Secretary can you ?

Can anyone see that Ooeyisit? It would be laughable.
On tv the other night, her wig appeared to be slipping off her head backwards and she was talking to ( or rather at) the interviewer, who was actually interviewing somebody else!

If it wasn’t true, then Angela Raynor would have denied it.
She didn’t.

lemongrove ''On tv the other night, her wig appeared to be slipping off her head backwards'' how nasty, vile and despicable of you to mock someone who has serious health issues which caused hairloss nasty.

I'm not saying it's not true, lemon. I'm saying that I want to see the source of it in the Labour documents. So far the only source I have is Marr's say so.

Would you do the same about a Jewish woman's wig?

For example Labour’s manifesto commits to scrapping marriage allowance, a policy introduced in 2015 which gives a tax break to couples with a combined income of under £62,500.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/21/whats-in-the-labour-party-manifesto

newnanny I think McDonnell has now dropped that idea.

That’s strange....I answered Newnanny’s post, and now her post has vanished.

jura how do you know that Abbott has hairloss? She has worn a wig for a long time ( looks like a wig anyway) but I had never seen it falling off before.
Jewish ladies who wear wigs wear them as one might wear a hat, it’s part of their religion to cover their true hair.

fully aware of this- my point is, what on earth has her wig got to do with anything. Vile and irrelevant comment.

Do you think a woman who wears a scarf because she has had chemo for cancer- has less right to wear one than a Muslim woman, then?