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Polls show that we are more proud of the NHS than the Royal Family or the armed forces.
The NHS is the closest thing we have to a religion., and Labour launched a warning about the threat of US trade deal, saying that the NHS is not for sale.
The Tories immediately hit back, calling Corbyn’s warning a pathetic scare story and even Trump waded in with saying “all we want to do is trade”
It would be political suicide for the Tories to try to unpick the fundamentals of the NHS, to pave the way for large-scale privatisation, and to introduce an insurance based system, or to bring in significant user charges..
But the Tories malevolent influence is more insidious.
It has starved the NHS of resources, and introduced the means for big pharma industries to extract profit at the expense of the tax payer.
The Tory record speaks for itself.
The NHS has come under severe strain as a result of the cuts imposed upon it by successive Tory chancellors.
As they dolled out generous tax cuts to o more affluent family costing billions of pounds a year, the NHS was continually starved of funds.
Indeed the NHS is now experienced the tightest funding since its inception. Spending on our health service is significantly lower than most of our international competitors.
The independent Kings Fund has stated
“The NHS is clearly under-resourced”
That is why winter after winter we hear of a crises in our NHS.
Last winter it took the unprecedented step of cancelling all non-urgent surgery.
There is increased waiting lists, understaffing, and bed occupancy rates consistently above the levels that permit safe care.
Tory ministers continue to misrepresent the level of funding, consistently claiming that it is getting mor3 money than it actually is.
So the Tories have are putting the NHS at risk in order to fund unnecessary and expensive tax cuts.
There is no reason to believe that they won’t continue along this road.
A US trade deal is the cherished objective of the hard right, which now dominates the shell of the Tory party, and this deal pushes a serious risk to the NHS.
It will open the door to rising drug costs to the tune if billions a year.
The US governments desire to liberalise access to the international drug market, and this has been the subject of many meetings between the U.K. and US trade negotiators.
The hard Tory right is desperate for a US trade deal and want to align with the US regulatory standards, it is one of the reasons why they want to leave the EU.
After the economic fallout of a Johnson Brexit the U.K. will not be in any position to exacting demands, and we will be in danger of signing up to a trading treaty that will bind the hands of future generations to make Britain a rule taker from the US.
We will have left the EU , an institution over which we have a democratic say in its laws and rules to become a vassal of the USA..
The ideological right has taken over the Tory party and is prepared to sacrifice the country’s wellbeing in order to get the version of the future it wants.
Think it will exclude the NHS?
Think again
Observer
8/10/19
My local CCG doesn't fund cosmetic surgery and a whole range of "unnecessary" treatments. Have you checked what yours funds quizqueen?
The population in 1947 was indeed smaller than it is today, but there weren't so many people paying tax. Crucially, there weren't so many old people! What do you suggest the NHS does with them?
Well said lemongrove
The ones who can afford private health and social care won't care Grany. If you're hoping to get old, you'd better make sure you're rich.
As for the criticisms of political point scoring …
If you read the sticky thread posted by LaraGN about election promises, it's quite clear that a number of people are concerned about the NHS and privatisation.
Now a Dr Dr Paul Hobday was so worried at how the NHS is being carved up, privatised he wanted more people to know about it. So he wrote a book that explains what's happening he draws upon his own experiences as a family doctor that involves real world politics with a compelling story line. The book is The Deceit Syndrome. All profits go to support campaigns to save the NHS
And Doctor Bob Gill The Great NHS Heist a film which is being produced to convince the public of what is happening to healthcare without their knowledge or consent.
BMA chair warns: 'Deal or no deal, Brexit will be bad for the NHS'
inews.co.uk/news/health/bma-chair-chaand-nagpaul-brexit-deal-nhs-499878
Everyone who cares about the NHS should vote to stop brexit
If the NHS has 'plenty of money' why are there cries of it being underfunded?
I love the criticism of my threads.
Come on all you Tory supporters, let’s see threads about all the positive things the Tories are going to do over the next 5 years and what they’ve done over the past 10.
You know what they say about a vacuum?
Interesting point Grany but deliberately underfunded I am not sure that is correct. Throwing money at the NHS is not the whole answer. Where is the funding coming from, it all has to he paid for from the taxes we pay. We can borrow the money, but it still needs to be repaid. It is easy to just Tory bash rather than really consider a matter that's complex. Scare mongering that Trump wants to take over the NHS and make billions? Everyone exploits the NHS, politician for votes and power, suppliers who think our sacred cow is their cash cow, the press who print emotional stories to sell papers, documentary makers etc. None of them do it for free and most for some profit. All to whip the public up for their own agendas. I'm not falling for that. I have seen significant investment in my local hospital since 2013, new systems closer working with local GPs, Saturday our patient appointments, dedicated one stop shop for elderly patient care, different ways to engage with GP, to free up their time. Telephone consultations etc. It can be done if good decision making is made locally and best practice disseminated across the NHS.
Of course the NHS in underfunded.
Rachel Clarke
@doctor_oxford
As an NHS palliative care doctor, it’s my #publicduty to inform the public that 9 years of brutal underfunding have run the NHS into the ground. We want to care for you brilliantly but we are at breaking point. The NHS won’t survive another 5 years of this.
Joelsnan is right, we expect too much. I work for the NHS and am demoralised by the amount of people expecting to receive care for anything and everything and wanting it NOW because they’ve paid their taxes but will not accept that it’s basically a free system. People abuse the system by not turning up for appointments which wastes so much money but aren’t penalised.
If I were young I would hesitate to go into medicine now and that’s what really concerns me; we need dedicated, intelligent people training to be medics and I think it takes a special type of young person who would want to become a doctor, nurse, paramedic or whatever.
The NHS worked as a model until recent times but we need to re-evaluate and re-assess the system. But it’ll take a brave government to do this.
Tooting29
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toot what’s in the crib sheet for next week?
Have you received it yet?
Mismanaged!
Not so much that, what takes up a lot of time is paperwork and record keeping, every single procedure has to be logged and every action has to be explained and in many cases signed off.
The recording now takes up as much time as actual patient care, it all has to be kept in case a patient tries to sue for negligence and can be used as evidence. If a nurse fails to record anything, it did not happen and they are guilty. Very different to 40 yrs ago.
WWM2. Again another personal dig. Just make seasoned argument and I will consider it. Perhaps just a little unpalatable that some things have improved under this Govt (for which I did not vote) but credit where it is due. Happy to take you on in education next
I don’t think you really do like the criticism of your threads WWM2 but you have to put up with it.
The Conservative Manifesto doesn’t need to be published on GN as all who are interested will find and read it for themselves and don’t need or want anything pushed at them relentlessly on here.As to what they have done in the last 10 years, I would count bringing us back economically from the brink of the crash as pretty good, and for the UK to have the highest employment rates for a very long time.
WWM2 your unpleasant remarks towards Tooting in saying that she is not a genuine poster with your constant little digs are not only unpleasant but ridiculous and against GN rules.Stop it now if I were you.
More facts
Clive Peedell
@cpeedell
As a NHS cancer specialist, it’s my #publicduty to inform the public that the #NHS cannot withstand another five years of the Tories. We are at breaking point.
So are teachers, social workers, the police, prison officers, carers....
#generalelection2019
It has been said on GN those who voted remain have been brainwashed and belong to a cult.......Cult Corbyn is alive and kicking on here!!!
???
Where's this Cult Corbyn thing?
The constant cut and paste from Labour Supporters over copious threads does not bode well for informed debate. Just deters others from posting due to the monotony of same old same old.
David The recording isn't just in case patients sue, but to satisfy auditors. For example, GPs have to ensure that certain people have required checks and have "achieved" certain outcomes. They have to account for their time too. I was baffled to see that a five minute doctor's "appointment" had appeared on my online booking page, so I asked what it was about. Apparently, the practice management had to log that the GP had spent five minutes looking at some blood test results. GPs also have to ensure that they reach thresholds with vulnerable patients - and all that has to be logged.
Hospitals have to respond to patients' complaints within a minimum time - and that is logged too. They have to satisfy loads of performance criteria. In theory, it should improve communications and minimise mistakes, but all the logging must take a considerable amount of time.
I just ignore the "copy and paste" posts. I haven't spotted that many.
Complaints about the chronic under-funding of public services are with us all the time, just highlighted at election time when the government in power is judged on its past record rather than its future promises.
MaggieTulliver and Joelsnan are correct.
I too worked for the NHS and it needs massive change. People take it for granted and its being used in a way that it was not intended. It will never be able to cope
Are people aware of our woeful cancer diagnosis/survival rates? Way down the list of other EU countries.
We need to look to the EU and learn how to fund and manage better
Major changes are needed. You could throw trillions at it at present and it wouldn't change a thing
But because it's our sacred cow, we won't allow it.
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