I wrote " ouch " at the end of my post. It never fails !!
Ellen; They do say great minds think alike!
I've just posted a message to Lemongrove (am I allowed to mention another thread?) before I read yours, also ending with "ouch!", only mine was concerned with me treading on toes at the forthcoming Christmas Ball in my dancing thongs. I wouldn't be game to walk on eggshells in them; it's not the thongs as such , but the weight they'll be carrying especially after all that Christmas Fayre!
Sorry for intruding and apologies to all the strait-lacers! 
OoRoo