Vote Labour and get Diane Abbott as Home Secretary God forbid.

I am no fan of DA and consider she would be a disaster as Home Secretary, however, it should be pointed out she does suffer with diabetes which if not controlled can cause confusion and dizzyness.

My objection is based solely on her political views

Why should this thread be deleted?

Let's delete the Farage thread then and the Mogg one why we are about it.

What has happened to free speech.

So is mine Beckett she would be a disaster as Home Sec but I don’t think Corbyn would give her the job.

Diane Abbott is Shadow Home Secretary, Corbyn gave her that job.

For all her achievements, admirable as they might be, she really is a total car crash when it comes to dealing with the media; which makes me wonder what she is like at doing her job.

And I do feel uncomfortable about JC giving top jobs to someone who was/is his lover. They are both consenting adults and what they choose to do is private is fine - but it really does smack of nepotism. It matters not one whit what her colour or ethnic origin is. That is an irrelevance.

What matters is that the right people are in the right jobs, based on their competence and relevant experience. She may very well fulfil those criteria, but the closeness of their relationship is bound to raise doubts about this.

Firecracker DA and JC had a brief relationship in the 1970s. She was a member of the Shadow Cabinet when EM was leader - so should we assume that she’d had an affair with him? This thread should be deleted because it is encouraging racist and sexist comments, lies and libel. I would say the same about any other thread that had posts like that.

Jennie Formby , now general secretary of the Labour Party was a one time lover of Len McClusky, they have a son from their affair.

Oh come on Lucky a brief fling 40 years ago should rule her out of any post in a party lead by JC? Really? If they were having an affair now, it would be different I grant you but 40 years ago?

Didn't Edwina and Captain Sensible have a thing?

annie I would tell you who the women are that the PM has had children with/ arranged abortions for but no one, including him, seems quite sure. He tends to do this whilst being simultaneously married to another woman. Goodness me, he was even having affairs whilst his last wife was being treated for cervical cancer. And then there’s Jennifer .......

Tbf to JM, EC wasn’t in his cabinet at the time.

Whilst I think Diane Abbot is not everyone’s cup of tea, and certainly (imo) has a strange intonation... in answer to the question “how did she ever become an MP ? is that she is apparently excellent with people on a one-to-one basis.

If so, you will get elected and then, if you are a great constituency person, you will then get re-elected.

Why is Diane Abbot always so picked upon? She is clearly a person of ability having been elected and re elected to parliament from her constituency for 32 years. She came from a poor background, her father was a welder and her mother a nurse, both left school at 14. She managed to get into Cambridge university and on leaving secured admission to the civil service fast track scheme ( very difficult to get into even then). Her son actually asked to go to the independent school, and refused to go to the local state school - could she really say no?
DH and I commented yesterday that she clearly finds television interviews difficult, in fact both Matt Hancock and Michael Gove gave really bad performances in the last few days too. She really does not deserve all this petty criticism.
Jeremy Corbyn made it clear yesterday that if Labour formed a government we should not assume that any of the existing holders of shadow cabinet positions would remain in those places. There are so many capable young labour politicians now that in the Labour party as in the Conservatives most of the old guard will be moving over to enable younger talent to develop. I would so love to see Jess Phillips in no 10.

Why is Diane Abbott picked on? Well could it possibly be anything to do with the fact that she is a woman from a poor back ground, a woman of colour and she has been well educated and successful?

No.

OP: Diane Abbott would be in charge of home security and immigration.

And that is worse than Priti Patel? I don't think so

PernillaVanilla I must comment on Diane Abbot's excuse that her son refused to go to the local state school, so could she say no. Is she saying that at 11 years old she allowed her son total autonomy on all aspects of his life? I expect not. And how very fortunate that she could afford, not only to put her principles aside when it came to her son ( the ones she has to keep when it comes to other people's children!) but that she could afford to indulge his insistence. I agree that she comes under the most awful abuse at times which is totally unacceptable, but people forever making excuses for her failings is also wrong.

I think that Diane Abbott is a good constituency MP.
However clever and bright she may be, I agree with Luckygirl that her media appearances are disastrous. Her thought processes appear to be slow; I don't remember her being like this years ago which makes me wonder if she has developed a problem which could hinder her if she ever were to take on one of the most important offices of state.

Is this " beneath you" thing sort of fashionable now?

Have we moved on from virtue signaling ?

You may say that trisher I certainly would not. Whilst I am not a Labour supporter there are numerous Labour MPs whom I admire and respect, they come over extremely well when interviewed.

Unfortunately the times I have seen DA interviewed, she has made so many "schoolgirl errors" contradictory statements and in my opinion seemed to be unprofessional.

I do not worry about getting a hard left government - if Labour were to win a majority - which is highly unlikely - and they decided to pursue a hard left agenda, their weakness in numbers would prevent them doing so. The checks and balances of the HofC would curb their ardour. I am guessing that any government that is elected would find themselves in a similar position.

yggdrasil ?

No, because she is a woman who dismisses her past support of the IRA as trivial- ‘I’ve changed my hair style since then’

Who explains why it was acceptable to stop parents choosing to have their children privately educated as she did -
‘That was years ago’.

Just read through the posts on here and, although there are negative comments about this woman, none are racist; in fact, there is little reference to her colour.
Let's just get that established.
Many dislike her simply because of her character, nothing to do with the colour of her skin. But of course, there are always those who will choose to see it that way!

You see that's the problem with prejudice ladymuck it isn't always expressed in words and it is cumulative. So a white upperclass man like JRM or Boris can get away with saying and doing things that a black working class woman would be castigated for. There can't be a more inadequate and boorish MP than Boris, but he became PM and some people actually like him. DA may not be the best PR person but her ideals and her aspirations for ordinary people are in the right place and yet she is constantly criticised. It is prejudice and it is based on her ethnicity and origins. (although I accept that a lot of people may be unaware of what they are doing)