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Firecracker123 Wed 06-Nov-19 08:44:41

Corbyn last year
"Shamina Begun should be allowed to return to the UK. She was only a 16 year old immature child when she joined ISIS she cannot be held accountable for her actions at such a young age"

Corbyn last week
"We the people demand 16 year olds be given the vote in the UK, they are responsible and free thinking young adults"

The Brexiteer

Callistemon Sun 10-Nov-19 20:41:28

Gracesgran I have not been brainwashed by anyone!
If that wasn't so rude it would be hilarious.
Do you not have faith in Corbyn then? confused

Personally, I shall read the main manifestos first but I don't have much faith in any of them carrying out their promises.

trisher Sun 10-Nov-19 17:03:16

Of course Opal much better to stop working people organising, keep them on inadequate wages with poor working conditions so that rich people can exploit them. After all why should they get a fair day's pay for a fair day's work? Who on earth do they think they are?

Opal Sun 10-Nov-19 16:48:23

Probably Anniebach and we'll be right back to the mess we were in at the time - the trade unions holding the rest of us to hostage. We elect a Government to run the country, not the unions. They had far too much power at the time. I remember it well, and that's why I could never vote for a Labour Government again.

Anniebach Sun 10-Nov-19 15:08:33

Corbyn said he will give full power back to the unions , 70’s again ?

Opal Sun 10-Nov-19 15:00:22

"Perfectly happily"?? I remember when the trades unions of nationalised industries brought the country to its knees in the 70s. Miners' strike, electricity cuts, train drivers' strike etc. etc. They were not "perfectly happy" days.

MaizieD Sun 10-Nov-19 12:51:18

Nobody said that they did, Pantglas. That 60- 70% will include moderate, one Nation, tories, LibDems, SNP, Plaid Cymru, Greens and Labour.

I'd also point out that persistently saying that Labour is 'far left' doesn't actually make them so. It has been noted many times on GNet that Labour policies would be regarded as perfectly normal in other countries, such as Scandinavian ones, that are in no way 'far left'.

They're not even as 'far left' as the post WW2 Labour government which nationalised road freight, the railways, mining, steel production.. And we lived perfectly happily for years with centralised control of electricity, water. the post office..

Pantglas2 Sun 10-Nov-19 12:33:59

There’s something wrong with the maths here as 60-70% don’t want a far left one either!

GracesGranMK3 Sun 10-Nov-19 12:24:49

When you think of all the money poured in behind the Tory Fake News Machine - just look at today's silly headlines in the newspapers - I think we have a duty to expose it on behalf of the 60/70% who don't want a far-right government.

trisher Sun 10-Nov-19 12:09:45

lemon I don't think even you can link Annies statements to the GE. I will say she has been consistent in her postings. It must take real effort to maintain such absolute bias in the face of real evidence, well that or real paranoia. (In which case perhaps we need to make allowances and be understanding)

jura2 Sun 10-Nov-19 12:09:39

I'm afraid- the Tories have really won the medal here.

Did you see the Keir Starmer interview manipulation? The massive campaign against Corbyn, which you have swallowed hook and sinker...

Russian interference report - not published

Islamophobia investigation promised- shelved.

Investigation into illegal funds given to his fancy woman - shelved.

ETc, etc, etc, etc

lemongrove Sun 10-Nov-19 11:50:29

All political parties have gone into overdrive where smears/
Dirty tricks are concerned........it’s what they do come election time.
If you can’t recognise that fact then you are truly brain washed by whichever party you support.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 10-Nov-19 11:24:13

Ah Annie. Could you give it a rest? And don't start a full-on attack on any other politicians or I shall feel obliged to defend them too. Other than the Tories of course. They have their very own Ministry of Dirty Tricks which sadly over-rides the truth for a while.

Anniebach Sun 10-Nov-19 10:51:29

youtu.be/nzI-v36QMLM

I am quoting Corbyn growstuff

GracesGranMK3 Sun 10-Nov-19 10:47:10

You could be right! smile

growstuff Sun 10-Nov-19 10:46:26

Nah, GracesGran I think they're due for an operating system upgrade and the hard drive can only cope by churning out the same stuff.

growstuff Sun 10-Nov-19 10:44:54

Am I in an echo chamber? This has all been explained to you Anniebach and I really don't have the patience to do it again, especially as you don't take any notice.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 10-Nov-19 10:44:04

Annie is off again I see. Just how many times can someone try to prove something that has been shown to be untrue?

growstuff Sun 10-Nov-19 10:43:39

Maybe somebody would like to factcheck these claims. I don't have the time.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 10-Nov-19 10:43:06

Growstuff, perhaps we should be feeling sorry for this affliction. It seems no one has anything good to say about the Tories so they have gone into reverse.

I will have to study the Labour Party more carefully. There must be something good about them for their opponents to try so hard to destroy them.

Anniebach Sun 10-Nov-19 10:41:14

Why didn’t he say he wasn’t laying a wreath ?

He said - ‘I don’t think I was involved ‘ , surely he knew if he was or wasn’t involved ?

growstuff Sun 10-Nov-19 10:38:32

Firecracker That picture was fact checked just a few ago on GN. Corbyn was not laying a wreath at the grave of the Munich terrorists!! I'm not going to repeat myself. By all means criticise Corbyn for his policies or ability to lead a political party, but please don't spread false news.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 10-Nov-19 10:34:25

I think this has always been the Tory way trisher and it wouldn't matter who was leading Labour they would do exactly the same. Bullying, both as Brexiteers and where the election is concerned is the way of a Tory.

Have you seen the Tory-supporting newspapers this morning? More fake news. It will continue now until the election as they have an appalling record over the last 10 years and don't want anyone to talk about that.

trisher Sun 10-Nov-19 09:50:17

I do wonder has there ever been another politician who has seen such things alleged about anyone who says something which agrees with the policies of the party they lead? Were Thatcher's supporters regarded as acolytes? I remember people were called "Blairites" but I don't think they were ever accused of blind, unthinking support for the man.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 10-Nov-19 09:41:53

Callistemon, being polite I will reply to each and every post made about me. However, you have obviously been brainwashed by Annie - her intention perhaps? When have I or anyone else subjected to her attacks on our capacity to reason said we have "faith in Corbyn"?

Callistemon Sun 10-Nov-19 09:27:31

As I used to tell my children when playground arguments erupted - just walk away.
Although I know that they would never stand back and watch someone vulnerable being bullied - they would always confront a bully.

If you are sure in your faith in Corbyn, can you not shrug and ignore?
Constantly reacting only adds fuel to the fire.

Firecracker
The two statements do seem to be contradictory, however, Shamima Begum was only 15 when she made the decision to go to Syria.
Personally I think that 18 is the right age to be given the vote, which gives rise to questions about marriageable age and other anomalies.