Tom Watson

What I said and think is in my post GrannyAnnie2010. There is no "insinuation" just a questioning of how acceptable a post is in which you hope that someone "is hunted to his deathbed.". You were given the chance to moderate what you were saying but chose not to. You put such a declaration out in public so there is really no point in getting on your high horse when someone questions your use of such language in a public place.

What threat is it that you're insinuating I'm making, GracesGran?

It is the harm you wished to befall another human being I was commenting on GrannyAnnie2010. Nothing else. I wasn't asking you if you felt it was verging on law breaking. There wouldn't be much point in that. I was just wondering. As it was obviously not a joke it moves into the question of whether it is a threat. You are not sitting in your favourite pub; you are suggesting an outcome for another person and broadcasting it to the whole world.

Hang on; are you saying you're married to Tom Watson? If not, this is irrelevant....

I live with a labour councillor and I see his lies, he even lies about his educational qualifications on his FB page! He lies about what he does in the home, absolutely nothing, BTW. He’s never even made as much as a cup of tea! He was almost deselected because the momentum crowd wanted one of their own in in the last local elections! He was called a 2 faced liar by one of his counterparts and secretly admitted to me he was, a fact which I’d realised many, many years ago, he even lied about having cancer to get me to come back to him after 4 years apart. All politicians say what they think you want to hear!

GracesGran, "hate speech"? I don't know - you're the one using that label. I hate anyone who supports false rape claims. If they don't know the facts, they should keep their mouths shut instead of jumping on the rape-claim bandwagon, especially if they're in a position of authority, like TW. (ugh!) Those who make the false rape claims should have a dose of their own medicine.

I don’t think many moderate Labour MPs actually like Corbyn or the way that he has allowed the ‘Momentum’ bullies to infiltrate the party.Many are upset about the way Corbyn has dealt with antisematism in the party too.Tom Watson was one of the moderates & it’s a very sad day that he is leaving.

No more Tom and Jerry!

I detest the Labour party and all it stands for. I had to work for 6 and a half years longer than I planned to because of |Brown and Blair. We had nice healthy savings accounts before they came to power, we were getting decent interest and had shares and an endowment which all lost money. I was too scared to retire because we didn't know what harm they were going to do next. Good luck to Boris and the rest of his team.

This is such sad news. The voice of reason in the Labour party. I have voted Labour in the past but now it it is in the grip of the extreme left I shall no more. Conservatives/Brexit party are the extreme right. So it has to be Liberal, not excited about that but it is the best alternative I can think of. Yes the Greens. the Womens Equality Party - both have their hearts in the right place but not this time.

I know what you are saying SuttonJ, but the fact is personalities headline the news. You need charisma to win an election (which is why Mrs. May came a cropper). So the leader of a party is all important as he/she sets the tone.

Exactly, suttonJ. Watson's gone. Who's the Labour PPC in his constituency?

I read Haaretz too. It's interesting to compare its spin with the Jewish Chronicle.

Watson is not a socialist. As my old gran would say — lots more to come out in the wash. Watch this space.

Thanks, GracesGranMK3. I get a lot of information from Haaretz, an Israeli newspaper that stands up for the democratic rights of both Israelis and Palestinians.

We don’t all have the choice of choosing different parties,
the greens and Plaid Cymru are not standing where i live , allowing us the choice of conservative, labour and Libdems

Please......an election is about policies not personalities (or rather it should be)
If you trust the Tories, who have promoted austerity and cuts to precious local services, and who have done diddly squat to ease the crisis in social care for NINE years, then carry on voting for them. If you want a different, kinder, greener, more inclusive and trustworthy politics, then look at some of the other parties.
Let's stop this cult of personality.

What about Ian Austin ?

No it isn’t ‘hate speech’ it’s the genuine opinion of a poster who can see what Watson has done to families by his belief in Beech and the way he followed it up so gleefully and assiduously.

Castafiore thanks for the additional facts in your post of today 10:53:03.

Funny, isn't it, that all those whom he insisted were investigated by the police for sexual assault just happened to be his political opponents either past or present. He is evil personified, and I really hope that he gets a dose of his own medicine, and is hunted to his deathbed.

I that hate speech? It seems full of hate for another human being to me. Not sure if it is or not.

This surely explains their political views?

Not really if they are now not supporting Labour.

^Then why has the Jewish Labour Movement said they will not
support Corbyn st this general election.^

I can only guess Annie. The people who know are the Jewish Labour Movement and history once it is written.

Tom Watson is at odds with Corbyn ( I sympathise with Watson there) and made a terrible mistake in believing in Carl Beech ( the police did too, remember.) However the only reason Watson went so aggressively after Leon Britton and others were because they were Conservative figures and he was happy to believe evil of them.He has never apologised properly for the damage and hurt caused to many families.
Am glad to see him go, even if he was a Labour moderate.

Maizie and WW2 That "mural episode" puzzled me too. I saw it and assumed it was intended to anti-capitalist. If Corbyn were really autocratic, you would have thought he would have wanted it to be removed. Instead, he questioned its removal because he saw the removal as an attack on free speech.

Talk about muddled thinking!