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I've never un derstood- what was the Great War all about?

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Jabberwok Sun 10-Nov-19 14:34:10

Or Google!!! It was a case of one incident exacerbating another, bit like dominoes going down! Austria demanded impossible reparation from Serbia for the murder of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand, this bought Russia, a long standing ally of Serbia into conflict with Austria, which bought Germany, Austria's ally into the fray. Germany requested passage through neutral Belgium to attack France who was Russia's ally, this was refused, backed by Britain, so Germany attacked the Belgians who fought them very bravely. This brought Britain into the war as we had a defense treaty with Belgium! The rest is ......

Labaik Sun 10-Nov-19 14:18:39

I saw a programme that showed that Franz Ferdinand was actually wearing bullet proof clothing and, had the bullet been a fraction lower he wouldn't have been killed. Wonder what would have happened, historically if he hadn't died.

MaizieD Sun 10-Nov-19 13:43:41

Have to do each one separately I think, pinkquartz sad angry Like I just did grin

I think that it was all territorial and vying for power in Europe, the middle East and India. The French and the Prussians had been at each other's throats for years, exacerbated by Bismark 'unifying' Germany by taking control of independent German states. Britain had made various defensive alliances with other European nations, including Belgium, to fend off Prussian aggression and expansionist ambitions. When Prussia invaded countries the British were allied to we were obliged to send troops to their defence.

I think it was a bit of family rivalry, too. Kaiser William greatly disliked his cousin, Edward VII...

How it got to be 'World War' is confusing..

Russia got involved to curb Prussian expansion in the East... (The Russian revolution caused the disintegration of the Russian army so that kind of petered out in 1917 - 18)

Then there were tensions over India, and rival Imperial influences in the middle East..

'British Empire' countries sent troops to help the British..

The USA came to the aid of the Brits...

When you look at it now it seems inconceivable that European countries should be trying to grab land from their neighbours, or control other countries in order to exploit their resources. (though now we go to war for different reasons)

A good history is what you really need, jura grin

Welshwife Sun 10-Nov-19 12:24:39

The actual incident was of course the assassination of Archduke Frank Ferdinand but it was a tad of a simmering pot going on in Europe and countries had their own agenda. It was mainly two groups - Britain, France and Russia and Italy, Germany and Prussia. Interestingly apart from France they were all Constitutional Monarchies.
Different loyalties then as relationships came into play - for instance Tzar of Russia - Nicholas - a cousin of British King George v.
That whole period of British and European history of the period from 1832 is very interesting and set the scene for much of today’s set up - Parliament, Police etc etc.

pinkquartz Sun 10-Nov-19 12:22:39

I give up on the emoitcons :-(

pinkquartz Sun 10-Nov-19 12:22:09

sorry should be UK

and [sad+angry]

pinkquartz Sun 10-Nov-19 12:21:26

I still can't remember why the IK was signed up in it though.

Such a bloody waste [sad and angry]

pinkquartz Sun 10-Nov-19 12:20:01

I remember there were treaties that men had signed up to.
A lot of it was for the landlocked European countries who kept pinching back land each had fought over for ever....eg Alsace -Lorraine was one of those as known in the famous song "Don't hang your washing on the Siegfrid Line" ( I forget the rest).

I can only recall it was a complicated mess of who will support each others back in case of . Fo rthis we were dragged in and millions of innocents died.

The assassain who shot the ArchDuke Franz Ferdinand is usually as he accept final straw.....he was shot over a problem in his country in the Balkans and millions die all over Europe.

How Stupid Was That !!

stella1949 Sun 10-Nov-19 12:12:28

Awful to think that so many people lost their lives, and all for something which we can barely understand today.

PamelaJ1 Sun 10-Nov-19 12:10:17

Belgium.
The German attack on Belgium violated the 1839 treaty of London.

lemongrove Sun 10-Nov-19 11:39:10

In the end it just became too complicated not to have a war!
No end of books about it jura2 if you’re really interested.

Scribbles Sun 10-Nov-19 11:35:40

The Struggle for Mastery in Europe, 1848 - 1918 by A J P Taylor is a pretty comprehensive and well written account of European politics in the late 19th century and explains a lot.

I've no idea if it's still in print but, if not, your local library may be able to obtain a copy.

Pantglas2 Sun 10-Nov-19 11:17:17

From what I remember of history lessons there were so many different treaties with different countries in alliance against each other it almost guaranteed a war!

jura2 Sun 10-Nov-19 11:06:18

Can anyone explain to me.