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Waspi women

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mcem Sun 24-Nov-19 08:43:12

Any thoughts on John McDonnell 's proposal to to compensate waspi women to the tune of £58 bn?

red1 Sun 24-Nov-19 11:16:22

It was an attack on women and men too, they had to work another year till 66,by the tories and their bed mates ,lib dems.It was a dark period in our history,the bank crisis 08
was blamed. How many billions were found to prop them up?have things changed for the bankers? no.Watch film documentaries like 'big short' and 'inside job' Its an outrage and disgrace,how many female politicians work till 66? or male ones for that matter?

cathieb Sun 24-Nov-19 11:19:23

Solange Your post above is excellent! Commentators and politicians on the media at the moment seem to be avoiding the issue of the huge corporations that don't pay tax - this is a scandal! It is well known, so why isn't it being confronted? Likewise your points about the NHS already being 'privatised' in some ways should be raised openly. And finally - of course we should regard higher taxation wisely spent as a potential benefit, as in Scandinavia. It is totally illogical to complain about lack of funding for the NHS, police, social care etc while at the same time protesting if it is suggested that tax rates should go up.

Rosebank16 Sun 24-Nov-19 11:24:02

Well he's getting my vote. I always maintained whoever righted this gross injustice to my generation of women, I would vote for, We have all been treat appallingly & ignored, it is time to rectify this gross maladministration

MaizieD Sun 24-Nov-19 11:27:02

Thanks, oldgimmer, though the essence of this is that you don't have to believe me grin. This is reputable analysis of past economic data, I'm just passing it on.

jura2 Sun 24-Nov-19 11:37:07

what was the cut off date- I was born end of Feb 1951, and just got in.

MaizieD Sun 24-Nov-19 11:37:09

According to Ann Widdecombe, the Tory government wanted a longer transition period, but under E.U. law this was not possible.

Absolute nonsense, dayvidg. Pensionable age is not within the EU remit.

But perhaps you could provide details of the EU regulation that she is referring to? hmm

lemongrove Sun 24-Nov-19 11:50:33

Gonegirl you didn’t miss it in their manifesto.....it wasn’t in it.
Their change of heart is no doubt linked to watching QT when Johnson told a woman that he couldn’t help her with that problem ( more or less) and it has been seized on by Labour as a good wheeze for more votes.
Any government will have to award ( some) compensation after the court case, if it finds in their favour.

lemongrove Sun 24-Nov-19 11:52:05

red1 You are wrong, many politicians carry on their jobs as MP’s well after retirement age, both men and women.

pollyanna1962 Sun 24-Nov-19 12:05:33

Not enough, I'm 1960's born and nothing for me at all. My present forecast says my pension at 67. I've 40 full years in and cant either add or take away for another 9 years. And I only found out last year.

Fairiesfolly Sun 24-Nov-19 12:06:57

I absolutely think it is disgusting the way we were treated. I am not holding my breath however to get any of my stolen money back! Just another ploy for a vote for Labour, and I will never ever vote Labour again while Corbyn is the leader. More lies to get the vote.

Keeper1 Sun 24-Nov-19 12:07:53

I saw this in the news this morning and cannot see how the money will be found.

Jabberwok Sun 24-Nov-19 12:15:06

jura , I think the cut off date was April 5th 1951, My cousin who was born on the 13th, would have been just outside it. She emigrated to Australia years ago so obviously isn't affected!

Keeper1 Sun 24-Nov-19 12:15:31

The company I work for looked at getting on the NHS preferred supplier list it was so onerous we gave up. No wonder a company once on the list them charges whatever it feels like.

Foxyferret Sun 24-Nov-19 12:28:18

Ha ha! I would believe this when I see it. Even if it happened I expect it would be a case of giving out with one hand and taking back with the other. Do these politicians really believe that we are so gullible? We have had years of being lied to by all parties, we are not going to suddenly start believing these empty promises, especially at election time when they will promise the earth just until they win.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 24-Nov-19 12:28:41

Lies from the right-wing. I would say check your facts but we are now all aware that Tories never use a fact where a lie will give you better publicity. This is the first lie I've spotted today on GN today

1. Finding a solution for the Waspi women wasn't in the Labour manifesto.

It was in the manifesto. They said they would come up with a solution. They have just given a more in depth explanation.

(Please feel free to add to the list)

grandtanteJE65 Sun 24-Nov-19 12:29:10

What are waaspi women, please?

I gather it has something to do with the raising of retirement age, but haven't a clue what this is all about.

GracesGranMK3 Sun 24-Nov-19 12:32:32

I think this will be more helpful than a long explanation from one (or more) of us grandtanteJE65

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_Against_State_Pension_Inequality

jura2 Sun 24-Nov-19 12:42:03

Well if you vote the Tories in- your daughters will not get their pension until they are 75 - I am sure they will thank you for it sad

Shortlegs Sun 24-Nov-19 12:42:09

A cynical, vote catching ploy. If voted in, Labour will take you back to the 70's.

helenmabr Sun 24-Nov-19 12:44:12

A sovereign state that has a fiat economy that produces its own money cannot go bankrupt who we gonna go bankrupt to?

dayvidg Sun 24-Nov-19 13:17:58

@MaizieD
If you watched the clip you would realise that she was talking about the equalisation of pension age, not the actual age of pensionentitlement. Presumably this is covered by equal rights legislation.

grabba Sun 24-Nov-19 13:18:42

Those questioning where the money is coming from do realise that the Labour party, not the Conservatives, are the party who have costed their proposed changes?
The Conservatives reneged on student fees aided and abetted by the Liberal Democrats.
The banks and others have benefited from the 'old boys' network while there are more foodbanks here than any civilised and developed country should have. I had never heard of food banks while I was growing up and some in power appear to be downplaying the need for them and how many people need to use them despite all evidence to the contrary.
There are more people in work claiming benefit which contradicts those who choose to think benefits are dished out to only the shirkers and people who choose not to work. How anyone can think this is a mystery to me.
I think all voters have to search their conscience and look at all the issues as if one of their family was in need, then make a decision.

Urmstongran Sun 24-Nov-19 13:26:38

I think it’ll end up being today’s news and tomorrow’s chip supper paper.

lemongrove Sun 24-Nov-19 13:30:13

grabba.....this £58b has not been costed by the LP...it’s a hasty announcement done with no costings at all!

oldgimmer1 Sun 24-Nov-19 13:31:08

I agree grab a that the number of in-work benefit claimants is a national scandal.

I'm not sure if I'm right on this, but I've read that 40% of working families are claiming.

An unintended consequence of a well-intended policy.