Waspi women

Are you claiming that only those who shout loudest deserve justice?

Sorry, but the Waspi organisers are money-grabbers. They're not even poor themselves.

Well did the men organise themselves? Did they campaign? Or did they sit back and watch the women work hard for some compensation and will they now jump on the bandwagon after watching the Waspi women do all the work.

What about the men who have been affected?

At the age of 60 unemployed men (or those on a low income) could choose to receive working age benefits or Pension Credit in line with women of the same age. Pension Credit is worth about twice as much as working age benefits, so naturally most of them opted for Pension Credit.

The increase in the female state pension age has meant these men have lost out too. Will they be compensated under Labour plans?

If the body is cold and the breathing has stopped then sometimes no amount of lying will revive it.

A new leader could, though - which is what Labour should have thought about way before this election was called.

With a new leader and a sensible, affordable manifesto, they would stand a good chance of being elected.

The manifesto clearly states that they intended to do something.

Yes - talk about it!!

What I still can't discover is where this figure of £58 billion originated.
Labour pledges £58bn for women caught in pension trap
That was from the Guardian, so it must be right.

From what I've seen the Jewish population is divided on this. He has many Jewish supporters. Jews are as diverse in their views as any other section of the population. The rightwing media (i.e most of the UK's media) have worked very hard on this. Believe whatever you like. I doubt if the real story is anything like as bad as is painted by the RW media.

I am a Waspi as well and I don't believe for one moment what he said would actually happen. As for Jeremy "being a man of principals", tell that to the Jewish population?

I only got 4 years notice (and that was not from the government) from a friend about pension age change. This was and is totally unacceptable. Many MP’s across all parties have said so. Many women got even less notice.

I could be selfish and say I’m alright Jack on the above basis. The problem with this is that women born in 1960 will get nothing so they could then claim unfairness and this could go on ad infinitum through the sixties- there has to be a point where we accept what’s been done and move on.

I think the waspi women have had a bad deal and should be compensated. My younger sister is one of them. However when she does get her pension it will be quite a lot bigger than mine.

I was one of those who followed government advice in the 1960s to opt for a "married woman's stamp" which meant that, having worked for umpteen years, I got a reduced pension, albeit paid when I was sixty.

I could never have survived on that and was fortunate to be able to continue working well into my seventies. I was a self employed professional and in good health.

Not every woman can do that, although as a generation we are healthier and live longer, there needs to be a safety net for those who experience misfortune.

I do not think any of us should begrudge compensation to the waspi women.

Glad you can afford not too, wish I could. Will be paid over 5 years. I could vote Tory if that was promised.

Still won't vote Labour though!

I'd get £31,300. Now that's what I CALL an election bribe! Can hardly wait. Will the cheque be in the post by Christmas?

Even if taxed it’s too much money for me to turn down. Pantglas

I’ve just done it Dyffryn and I’d get almost £27000 but I imagine tax of 20% would be deducted.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/50546923
Worth going on the BBC Fact check site where they have a calculator from the Labour Party telling you how much compensation you will get over 5 years. I was born in 1956 and they are saying I will get £24,000.

I think the only cold dead body around is the LP as lead by Jeremy Corbyn.When he is gone it can start to revive under a more moderate LOTO.
I imagine he will resign immediately after the GE.

^ but do stop saying mealy mouthed things in defence of it.^

Are you getting personal again LG?

I have to agree with Maizies unstated reasons.

Sometimes you have to call it as it is and the forensic assessment of the Tory manifesto is only just beginning and oh look ... Boris has murdered the old One Nation Tory party and replaced it with the ERG who, as we know from the referendum, can't add up.

If the body is cold and the breathing has stopped then sometimes no amount of lying will revive it.

Oh MaizieD that’s hilarious! What I am saying is all over tv and radio and social media, so do come off it!

Their manifesto promised they would do something.....yes, have a think about it and ‘work with the women’ !!!

Not suddenly announce a package costing billions that they hadn’t taken into consideration when costing their manifesto.

It’s a typical election tricks type of announcement, and all’s fair in love and General Elections, but do stop saying mealy mouthed things in defence of it.

None of it really matters of course, because Labour is trailing badly in the polls, so will no doubt never be called upon to make good their outrageous promises to anyone.

Well I'm voting Labour - for the first time in my life - and not because of the WASPI issue. I had read it in their manifesto a week or so ago and knew something would be done about it but that's not why. I genuinely believe JC is the most honest politician around today. For a start, he was the politician who claimed the least amount of expenses at the time of the expenses scandal. I can see why people might have an issue with Diane Abbott - I too find her uninspiring - and tbh JC doesn't come across as a dynamic personality but that's not what I want in my Prime Minister. I want someone who genuinely wants to make a difference for those members of society who suffer in so many ways - he is, to my thinking, a very straight and honest man and I hope he gets elected.

The main reason we have to claim the state pension is that some people over the years chose to postpone receipt if they were continuing to work, which avoided losing 20%/40% tax on it.

Pre 2016 you got an uplift of approx 10% for each year you delayed but since that date the percentage has dropped to around 5% which makes it less attractive but I have friends who have still chosen to do so.

and it may surprise you to know that many people are thinking the same as me

Doesn't surprise me in the slightest, lemon for reasons I won't state because my post would be deleted. But fortunately you don't speak for everybody although you like to post as if you do...

I'm not pretending anything.. The manifesto clearly states that they intended to do something.

What I still can't discover is where this figure of £58 billion originated.

If it’s not in the Manifesto, don’t trust it. Not that I would anyway, so much is being promised it mostly has to be pie in the sky. I’m just waiting to see what goodies come out of the ether next. Rural bus services every ten minutes from your house?

MaizieD ....and it may surprise you to know that many people are thinking the same as me, that the LP stance on WASPI women was (manifesto) that they would have a think about it and work with women on it......and what they did was to try and overshadow the Conservative manifesto by suddenly (as in hey presto!) Announce a massive and uncosted amount to give in reparation.
Ok, it’s an election and many tricks are used to gain an advantage, but please don’t insult the intelligence of anyone on this forum by pretending it was what they were going to do all along. If it had been, it would have been in the
Manifesto, costed (!) and announced then, a week ago.