Tory manifesto

Manifesto! ?

I think there is a little bit more than that. Maintenance Grant's for nurse training, no tax increases, get Brexit done, money for skills, etc. At least it is not over promising anything.

It's not "nothing" really Yehbutnobut. It's more of the same, including the lies and obfuscation even in such a small tract.

The nurses one has already been exposed - what next?

Farage has praised the Tory manifesto.

I wonder, did he get to dictate half of it himself in return for agreeing not to stand Brexit Party candidates in Tory constituencies?

(I accidentally posted this on the wrong thread earlier.)

There are no wild promises, that’s the good thing yeahbut
We have had more than enough of those from Comrade Corbyn last week.
What the UK now needs is a period of stability whilst we prepare to leave the EU.It’s easy to promise the earth until you get into a position of power, then see how hard it is to deliver on them.I am relieved by the manifesto, it has enough
Things in it to satisfy the needs of the country whilst still being deliverable.Future budgets can then tweak old policies
or create new ones.
This country needs to move on....and hopefully in a few weeks time with a Conservative win that’s exactly what will happen.All Conservative MP’s are now backing the EU deal.

Are you suggesting that BJ is not making big spending promises?

I agree about the avoidance tactics when it come to social care - it is a massive political hot potato. None of the parties will handle it. Too scared to come clean about the huge funding implications.

Incredible and amazing tweet from Laura Kuensberg, who so far has seemed the Tories best ally. But she has turned, and not pulling her punches!

Tories in 9 year have borrowed a trillion pounds- that is 111.11 billion per year. Tories have borrowed 7.5 times more than Labour and doubled what Labour borrowed in their total of 33 years in Government.

I think social care is a hot potato Luckygirl for the reasons you state, and think we have to get cross party census on it as otherwise each incoming government will change things.

Tories in 9 year have borrowed a trillion pounds- that is 111.11 billion per year. Tories have borrowed 7.5 times more than Labour and doubled what Labour borrowed in their total of 33 years in Government.

That message needs spreading. The Labour party is good with the economy. They just always receive it in a pretty awful state.

Regarding Social Care BJ said he'd got a plan arranged, and now he's apparently afraid to tell us what it is, probably as TMs plan was so badly received.

Problem is, as someone said on Today Prog this morning, before an election voters don't want to hear that they will have to contribute financially to a social problem that doesn't concern them. Unless one is directly involved with an elderly person's care, people think that care is free.

Quite honestly the Tories have been in power long enough to deal with this major social crisis and they haven't. They will never get my vote, and I can't understand why anyone who isn't seriously rich would consider helping them into power, with several more years of the same.

The Labour party is very good at spending other people’s money.

I thought the Conservative manifesto was good. No idiotic spending promises which can’t be kept like the risible Labour one

other people's money JE is what we all, in a civilised society should contribute through taxes, towards the well being of the elderly, sick and vulnerable.

Anyone of us could be dependant on state assistance, if our circumstances change.

The reception for May's social care plan was strange. It would actually have benefited a significant number of the least wealthy. I couldn't understand why the Labour Party opposed it.

Very true Greeneyedgirl. The IFS did a study which showed that approximately 70% of people receive some form of benefit at some stage over their lifetime … and that's not counting state pension and child benefit (family allowance).

So you're happy for the current situation with the NHS, schools, housing and derisory benefits to continue JenniferEccles?

So it's just 30,000 'more' nurses. Why lie?

jennifereccles ''Tories in 9 year have borrowed a trillion pounds- that is 111.11 billion per year. Tories have borrowed 7.5 times more than Labour and doubled what Labour borrowed in their total of 33 years in Government.''

whose money do you think that was ??? Theirs?

Do you know, I’m wondering if Boris is keeping a tight rein on spending - not going crazy - because they are the only party promising Brexit and he knows they might well need some money in their war chest to mitigate (at first) the initial effects of our separation.

Sensible man.

Well no but investment is in place.

I would disagree though about‘derisory’ benefits. The idea of course is to get people off benefits and back to work.

If they were any more generous than they already are, there would be no incentive to work would there?

I find it impossible to believe that there are millions incapable of working .

He's fruit UG. You need brave leaders who stand up for what they believe. No those who are led by the nose by their spin makers.

‘fruit’ ??

Do you have any idea about the level of benefits JenniferEccles? Really? There would be (and is) plenty of incentive to find work. To be perfectly honest, you don't know what you're talking about.

Oh come on does anyone seriously believe a word of the manifesto? From the 40 new hospitals which apparently are real although all that has been done is that plans have been drawn, to the 50,000 nurses, (19000 already working for the NHS) and the social housing offered last time It's all b**-s**
As for the police and pot holes, cut and massively reduce numbers and budgets and, payments to LEAs etc then step in to say you'll rescue them

I challenge you JE to go and see Ken Loach's film "Sorry I missed you" to see the reality of what getting back to work means in our dysfunctional society, and see if you feel the same way.

If you want the truth about the Tory promises in their manifesto I suggest you take a look at "full fact.org". The 50,000 nurses, for a start is misleading. It includes trying to encourage 18,500 nurses who intend leaving to stay, and encouraging those who have left to return.