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Racist Tories

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Nov-19 10:58:40

So much evidence out there being ignored by the racist press

Jonathan Lis
@jonlis1

And yes, as a Jewish person I was also offended by the coded antisemitism the Tories and their media allies used to attack Ed Miliband. Not just the bacon sandwich, by the way. More the constant references to ‘north London’ and the fact he was going to ‘stab Britain in the back’.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Nov-19 11:00:42

Jonathan Lis
@jonlis1

We’ve already forgotten Zac Goldsmith’s nakedly Islamophobic campaign. It included an op-ed which painted Sadiq Khan as a friend of terrorists and was illustrated by the 7/7 bus. Boris Johnson joined the campaign wholeheartedly and wrote that Khan is ‘pandering to extremists’.
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Zac’s team sent me a campaign leaflet clearly targeted at Hindu Londoners, promising to protect my gold (!!) and protect me from those terrible Muslims. It seems they wrongly assumed I was Hindu because I’m Indian, when in fact I’m Muslim. Those pesky segmentation models!

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Nov-19 11:10:17

BREAKING: The Conservative candidate for Luton South, Parvez Akhtar, calls on his party leader Boris Johnson to apologise for Islamophobia in the party.

“The Conservatives have a blind spot when it comes to Muslims”.

Ilovecheese Wed 27-Nov-19 11:12:14

But will their racism affect their chances of winning the election?

jura2 Wed 27-Nov-19 11:12:30

clear as a bell- for sure. Two wrongs never make a right- but the refusal of the Tories and in particular, Johnson, to investigate Islamophobia as promised - says it all.

Baggs Wed 27-Nov-19 12:32:21

As an ignorant northerner, I don't understand why references to north London and the phrase "stab Britain in the back" are seen as anti-semitic or racist. All of north London isn't a Jewish sector, is it?

Gove was said to have stabbed Boris in the back before May became leader. Isn't it a fairly commonly used expression when you've spoiled something (in that instance Boris's chance of becoming Tory leader)?

Please note I'm not defending anyone or anything in this post, just asking for explanations.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Nov-19 12:33:33

baggs it is dog whistle politics. Beloved by the far right.

ayse Wed 27-Nov-19 12:44:28

I don’t understand the reference to north London either!

There is prejudice everywhere but sometimes I wonder if verbal attacks are turned against the offender by making a charge of racism against them.

I was accused of being racist in the late 1960’s by a black guy, when I wouldn’t go out with him, not withstanding that the boyfriend at the time was also black!

The Tory party and BJ do nothing to investigate racism within their party but they love to bang on about others. IMO they are upper class hooligans who get away with it whilst others are pilloried relentlessly.

They are disgusting specimens!

grapefruitpip Wed 27-Nov-19 12:49:11

BJ's letterbox comments were pretty low.

newnanny Wed 27-Nov-19 12:54:39

The letterbox comment was poor, but if you read the whole article BJ was defending the right of Muslim woman to wear whatever they like in public, even if many do consider it OTT covering your face. His point was it is a free country in the UK and you can walk about in whatever you like.

Pantglas2 Wed 27-Nov-19 12:59:34

I understand that the chancellor is Muslim- how does that fit with anti Muslim tories?

grapefruitpip Wed 27-Nov-19 13:05:19

OK, that totally proves it doesn't it. A Muslim in power, they must be totally all for equality of opportunity.

grapefruitpip Wed 27-Nov-19 13:08:38

There was a “significant spike” in Islamophobic incidents after Boris Johnson compared women in burkhas to “letterboxes” in his Daily Telegraph column, according to an anti-racism organisations

No ,he wasn't defending Muslim women.

grapefruitpip Wed 27-Nov-19 13:11:24

www.stylist.co.uk/life/boris-johnson-prime-minister-terrifying-prospect-muslim-women-letter-box-islamaphobic/273741

humptydumpty Wed 27-Nov-19 13:12:08

Pantglas if that was proof then presumably for you the fact that Ed Milliband was Labour leader proves that the LP is not anti-semitic?

eazybee Wed 27-Nov-19 13:38:12

He was defending their right to wear the burkha.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Nov-19 13:41:33

Business publication listing Johnson’s, racism, misogyny and much more.

www.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-record-sexist-homophobic-and-racist-comments-bumboys-piccaninnies-2019-6

Pantglas2 Wed 27-Nov-19 13:44:57

Yup goes both ways for me .....

grapefruitpip Wed 27-Nov-19 13:51:53

Does anyone have a link please to the article where BJ defends the rights of Muslim women? I have tried but I can't find it.

Baggs Wed 27-Nov-19 13:58:29

I'll see if I can find the article in question but eazybee is correct. The comment about burkas on people resembling letterboxes was in a whole passage about people being free in this country to wear what they like but also people being free in this country to say something was ridiculous if they thought so.

If I wore a burka the whole effect would be of a black letterbox and it is a ridiculous garment in my opinion. I had a brown cape in my teens that made me look like a mushroom too.

Gonegirl Wed 27-Nov-19 14:08:09

Well, I thought the letterbox thing was funny.

Baggs Wed 27-Nov-19 14:09:09

Here are the two most relevant paragraphs (out of 12) from an article by BJ published in the Daily Telegraph 5 August 2018:

If you tell me that the burka is oppressive, then I am with you. If you say that it is weird and bullying to expect women to cover their faces, then I totally agree – and I would add that I can find no scriptural authority for the practice in the Koran. I would go further and say that it is absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letter boxes; and I thoroughly dislike any attempt by any – invariably male – government to encourage such demonstrations of “modesty”, notably the extraordinary exhortations of President Ramzan Kadyrov of Chechnya, who has told the men of his country to splat their women with paintballs if they fail to cover their heads.

I am against a total ban because it is inevitably construed – rightly or wrongly – as being intended to make some point about Islam. If you go for a total ban, you play into the hands of those who want to politicise and dramatise the so-called clash of civilisations; and you fan the flames of grievance. You risk turning people into martyrs, and you risk a general crackdown on any public symbols of religious affiliation, and you may simply make the problem worse. Like a parent confronted by a rebellious teenager determined to wear a spike through her tongue, or a bolt through her nose, you run the risk that by your heavy-handed attempt to ban what you see as a bizarre and unattractive adornment you simply stiffen resistance.

grapefruitpip Wed 27-Nov-19 14:35:48

But surely it is not for BJ to be telling Muslim women that a garment of clothing " is oppressive". Or that it is " weird and bullying" to expect women to cover their faces.

Has he spoken to any?Has he asked?

Gonegirl, in what way did you find the letterbox comment funny?
Probably not terribly funny to those experiencing the hate crime that followed his article.

Gonegirl Wed 27-Nov-19 14:49:27

In what way? Ummm. It made me laugh. hmm

There was no reason any hate crime should have followed that comment. Blame the haters. Any excuse for a punch-up.

Gonegirl Wed 27-Nov-19 14:50:01

We do still have free speech in this country you know.