Boris and Truth - a close relationship?

Many of our age group feel the same.

David Cheshire
@cybercheshired

I'm 71 and I've never known an election where the Tory party have lied so wilfully or outrageously as a matter of course. Not Douglas Hume, not Heath, not Thatcher, not even Haig or IDS or Howard or Cameron or May. Something has come badly unravelled. Johnson is a major polluter

Granny23 The lady from Devon made me cry, but BJ won't see that. It's shameful.

grany good for you!

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Harry Archie - ex para trooper - #JC4PM
@Dianne4leader

For 46 years I voted conservative.

Never again.

I fought for this country, I didn't fight for foodbanks, homelessness, poverty and for a Tory party to think they are born to rule.

For the first time ever I will vote Labour purely because of
@jeremycorbyn
and his manifesto

He knows he's lying and so do his henchmen, he just doesn't care. You can see it in his eyes when he's lying and when he's totally clueless about how to answer a question, he goes on auto, 'Get Brexit done'...'I've only been in power for 120 days...blah, blah', same old, same old.

We were led to believe that he is some sort of super brain. Highly intelligent they said. Well someone said anyway. He hasn't shown the slightest sign of being highly intelligent.

Would a truly intelligent person make such appalling speeches or repeat set answers repeatedly, and worst of all, shy away from significant climate debates and BBC interviews? Apparently he was at a farm shop in Devon and couldn't make it to the climate debate.

For all his bluster, he is an incompetent campaigner. Some of the original contenders for the job as leader must be smarting when he's put on the spot with questions he doesn't like, and simply refuses to engage. He is the master of crass remarks and blatant lies.

What the hell are we teaching our children and grandchildren if we are accepting that politicians can lie. Lies are not acceptable ever.

….'There just seems to be more actual intelligence knocking around amongst the tories'.....can't believe I've just read this either. Am I living in a parallel universe or something...most of the intelligent, decent Tories have left....?

Dinahmo; I couldn't believe what I was seeing/hearing on Ch4 tonight. Even the guy that said his prediction for 6 months time was 'trade talks with America still ongoing/Boris has affair' then went on to say [I believe] that he was voting for him. Conservative voters that I know are voting LibDem because they're appalled by what their party has become, and yet traditional Labour voters seem to think the Conservatives speak for them. It's politics gone mad....

Gonegirl, how on earth can it be ok for Boris to lie as long he gets the job done. Unbelievable. But then again good old Boris doesn't know he is lying as he wouldn't recognise a lie if it hit him in the face

When Johnson has been interviewed recently he ignores the fact that the Tories have been in power for nearly 10 years but refers to "his" government" which has only been in power for 120 days.

A focus group on Channel 4 this pm believe in his statements. They think he will get things done and they ignore the 10 years of austerity,

A You Tuber called Paul who makes a video every day using the pseudonym " A Different Bias" said that if he had been in a coma for the last 10 years and had woken today, listening to the way Johnson talks he would assume that we have had a Labour Government in power for those 10 years and that Johnson's government is completely new.

Which of course it is, with the appalling front bench that he now has.

I'll answer you Ramblingrose22

if we have to decide who to vote for, how do we know what they'll really do and how can we decide if we are told a pack of lies?

Judging on past performance by anyone in power at any given time - we don't

Course it is. ?

I guess that's as well-reasoned an answer as we can expect from you, Gonegirl.

Too knackered to answer.

Soz. x

Gonegirl - have come to see this thread late in the day but why doesn't it matter if Johnson lies?

I have been around long enough to know that manifestos are just a fantasy wishlist but if we have to decide who to vote for, how do we know what they'll really do and how can we decide if we are told a pack of lies?

Whoever gets elected has to get on with the job.

I'd rather the EU be behind this country and not Boris. How I rue the day that this insane argument of leaving ever came about.

This country can't function without a backup, there's nobody responsible enough to run it single-handedly. I just fear the worst and fear more for the future !

Gonegirl why do you think a habitual liar will be able to negotiate honestly?

I stand firmly by what I have posted on here.

Whitewave I think he will get the dreaded (by me) Brexit over and out of the way. (It has to be done) And, hopefully, set up new trade deals.

Well if Boris mimics Trump about the NHS's demise, that'll be the end of a Conservative government in this country for ever.

Not all politicians lie Urmstongran (god! I hate those trotted our clichés which reflect an inability to think for oneself). Many do promise the earth but this is a new style of liar.

Boris is only mimicking his buddy Trump.

Urmston, watch Nicky Morgan explain the maths of the promised 50,000 new nurses and leave Dianne Abbot's mathematical ability out of the equation.

www.facebook.com/PeoplesMomentum/videos/biggest-car-crash-interview-ever/610213243054218/

It doesn't matter if he lies???? That is truly depressing. It matters a great deal.

As far as I am aware we still expect witnesses and defendants to swear that they will tell the truth in a court of law. If the PM can get away with lying, why ask witnesses to swear on a bible to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

If that is no longer the case, then I stand to be corrected.

They all do it!

Swinson campaigned on Revoke (originally) and has since changed her campaign tone.

JMcD is economical with the truth.

David Cameron told us the referendum was a ‘once in a lifetime’ choice.

Dianne Abbott can’t add up big numbers.

It’s difficult to know where to place that cross on a ballot paper.

But I want to get Brexit done so my choice is limited.