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Boris and Truth - a close relationship?

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lemongrove Mon 02-Dec-19 10:44:17

Boris Johnson.......we all know what he’s like, and although popular with the Conservative Party members and with a lot of people, (Conservative or Labour actually) in the UK in general ( the man in the street) he was never the most suitable for the job, just the most popular.
The same goes for Corbyn...at the time he was very popular with LP members and in the street ( nobody knew much about him.) So, popular but unsuitable for the job.
However, we are where we are, and just about anybody would be better as PM than Corbyn, including Boris Johnson.

MaizieD Mon 02-Dec-19 10:42:54

Unbelieveable

Isn't it just, Luckygirl.

And these are the folks who keep on and on about 'democracy'! In reality they are destroying it...

Completely missed my last point. How can you be sure that the lies you voted for are going to be implemented?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 02-Dec-19 10:41:49

gonegirl as Johnson lies, and you have accepted that he does, which issues will he get on with? Because he lies you haven’t a clue what he will do, and neither does anyone else

Luckygirl Mon 02-Dec-19 10:38:30

It doesn't matter if he lies????!!!! Unbelievable.

No wonder we are in such a mess.

It is really the ONLY thing that matters.

Gonegirl Mon 02-Dec-19 10:14:50

That's a good one Maw. grin

I don't think it matters if he lies, or about the rest of his behaviour either tbh . Just so long as he can get on with the job on hand and guide the UK through the next year or two.

There just seems to be more actual intelligence knocking around amongst the tories.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 02-Dec-19 10:13:48

Perhaps it's time that when a Political Party publishes its manifesto that it should become a legally binding document.

As it stands, we all know that the majority of items set out within them will never come to fruition and in some cases the opposite will happen.

Callistemon Mon 02-Dec-19 10:11:42

Jeremy Corbyn doesn't lie.
He just prevaricates and refuses to answer the question.

I thought that that aas what politicians did - hence 'a politician's answer'

MaizieD Mon 02-Dec-19 10:07:15

'All politicians lie' must be one of the most depressing statements ever. It says to me that the person saying it has no wish for our democracy to survive. Because a democracy cannot be based on lies, corruption and contempt for the law.

If you know that politicians are lying you do democracy no favours by shrugging your shoulders and going along with it. It is within your power not to vote for lying politicians.

Jeez, if you know that they are lying how can you be in any way sure that the promises that sway you to vote for them will be implemented if they are elected?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 02-Dec-19 09:38:16

I can’t remember another election like this one though.

In any “normal” election the issues are debated and the candidates are questioned.

But all we have is the candidate for Uxbridge repeating one or two mantras. Each time they are shown to be lies, but the next time he is questioned he repeats the same lies again.

It is utterly bizarre and deeply troubling.

Urmstongran Mon 02-Dec-19 09:33:49

All politicians lie (when it suits them). It must be in the T&C of the job.

MawB Mon 02-Dec-19 09:29:11

Oops posted this previously on the wrong thread - trying again though

Luckygirl Mon 02-Dec-19 09:24:09

Well - bizarrely you may be right.

The more he lies and proves himself a man of no morals, the more people seem to like him. Unbelievable.

Grandad1943 Mon 02-Dec-19 09:11:00

Johnson seems to be "going right out of his way" to demonstrate to all and sundry what total Buffoon he is.

What I am trying to work out in my mind is, does he believe that acting and being as verbally untruthfull as he has over the past few days is a deliberate strategic strategy being he believes it will gain him votes?

FarNorth Mon 02-Dec-19 08:57:31

"Google has banned eight different adverts paid for by the Conservatives over the last month because they broke its rules"

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-general-election-advert-ban-google-fake-news-manifesto-labour-a9223846.html?fbclid=IwAR2QfOCiLEqXMLgH16YgMtz0TiElEBdlpqt5WkQGxwqS0KwkL40A1I8IRi8

FarNorth Wed 27-Nov-19 12:24:17

From this website :

boris-johnson-lies.com/

FarNorth Wed 27-Nov-19 12:22:30

“20,000 more police are operating on our streets to fight crime and bring crime down”
Boris Johnson in a speech in Oldham, live on Sky News
15 November 2019

Claim

The prime minister has regularly claimed that one of his government’s plans is to recruit 20,000 additional police officers. In this instance, he said that 20,000 more police “are operating” on our streets, suggesting that his government had already achieved this goal.

Facts

Recruitment will take place over three years and do no more than replace the drop in officer numbers seen since the Conservatives came to power in 2010.

Verdict

Johnson lied. It is a realistic possibility that the Conservatives will recruit an additional 20,000 police officers, but it will take several years and will only cover cuts they have already made.