Do the Tories care?

Not always a bad thing MOnica. Nothing like a reasonable disagreement to keep the old grey cells active!

On the matter of age - it seems that the mean age of Conservative voter has decreased now to 39. It was 40 at the last election. There are also a larger number of young people voting Conservative now ( and the source is YouGov which is hardly a favourable one for the Tories as a rule).

Gagajo Looking at that list can you give a definition of socialism that would encompass all of them, or even just Denmark and Venezuala?

The Scandinavian countries are unarguably democratic and obey the rule of law, but Venezuela? As for Serbia, deeply corrupt, riven by ethnic antipathies and racist. Bolivia has been having violent demonstrations against its government.

The range of governments policies and conduct across those countries suggests to me that socialism is anything you want it to be.

Until we get a complete overhaul of the way government is run in this country it will always [well, most of the time] be run by what is largely a group of old Etonians who think they're still in the Bullingdon Club. All the shouting and filibustering needs to go and parliament needs to be dragged into the 21st century. It might be fun to watch but it's no laughing matter any more.