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The future if Boris gets in

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Yehbutnobut Mon 09-Dec-19 08:09:32

Take back control??? ???

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Dec-19 14:37:14

He has no answer

Joe Pike
@joepike

Tried to show @BorisJohnson the picture of Jack Williment-Barr. The 4-year-old with suspected pneumonia forced to lie on a pile of coats on the floor of a Leeds hospital.

The PM grabbed my phone and put it in his pocket:

jura2 Mon 09-Dec-19 14:34:59

I would actually agree to this.

But it is also clear that there has been a huge, underhand campaign of lies and dis-information about Corbyn- financed by Tory Press magnates- in a way which has never seen the likes before.

jo1book Mon 09-Dec-19 14:28:57

Exactly. Most people view Corbyn as a Menace.
If Labour want to win an election they should field a better man than Corbyn.

lemongrove Mon 09-Dec-19 14:24:39

How about keeping all the bad feelings for the politicians and
not other posters on GN.
I view Corbyn as a menace, someone else views Johnson as one, so what?
We shall see who the country favours on Friday morning.

jo1book Mon 09-Dec-19 14:23:31

I see the Sun newspaper is dissing Corbyn;every day it seems.
I remember when they boasted they lost the election for Kinnock. Obviously targeting the working-class. They usually get it right as this election is not so much about putting BJ in power than stopping Corbyn.

lemongrove Mon 09-Dec-19 14:21:21

Except jura....?that I view Corbyn as the dog poo!?

jura2 Mon 09-Dec-19 14:17:41

This made me laugh- and is so true

''Voting for Johnson because you don't like Corbyn, is like spreading dog poo on a pizza because you don't like pineapple''

daft, but true.

jo1book Mon 09-Dec-19 14:11:27

The problem with "facts" these days is that they are often untrue. There is a lot of old tosh on Google that is there to incite left wingers or right wingers. Choose your colour and read what suits you.

jura2 Mon 09-Dec-19 13:41:51

Isn't it strange that doctors and nurses understand better than most of us, what it means

www.facebook.com/ledbydonkeys/videos/699606253779643/

MaizieD Mon 09-Dec-19 13:32:17

What would you like a factual response to, Opal.

I've posted fact after fact on here over the past 3 years but it has no effect whatsoever. So I don't try very hard now. However, you tell me what I have to respond to and I'll happily try again.

I expect growstuff would as well.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Dec-19 13:31:23

Good man.

Aggressive and foul language says so much about someone’s inability to retain control over their behaviour. You see it so often in right wing and fascist meetings. It must be resisted.

Michael Dougan

I was asked again today: "why not just get a job elsewhere and escape this f*^ked up country?"

Hmmm...

I easily could - thanks to my lovely Irish passport and super free movement rights.

But you don't give fascists a bloody inch. You stay and you fight. So that's what I'll do.

Opal Mon 09-Dec-19 13:27:53

Oh you two, you do make me smile growstuff and MD, when you can't think of a factual response, you revert to your attitudes of superior condescension - which just shows all of the other posters your true natures..... Typical left-wing superiority complex, seen it all before .......

sarahellenwhitney Mon 09-Dec-19 13:27:45

Maisie D
Presume you are still resident ??????

crystaltipps Mon 09-Dec-19 13:19:00

France: we want to raise the pension age to 62 - “general strike! Man the barricades!”
Tory UK: We want to raise the pension age again maybe to 75, we want to cover up and continue previous cuts by pretending to build more hospitals and employ more police.
“Ooh we’d better vote for that or rich people might have to pay more tax”

MaizieD Mon 09-Dec-19 13:17:10

The Labour manifesto merely advocates a return to a more mixed economy, Opal. Which works very well in a number of countries, and did in the UK until Thatcher set about destroying it.

I think you need to be better informed about the difference between a mixed economy and a command economy.

Jane10 Mon 09-Dec-19 13:16:36

I don't remember a time of plenty at any time in the past. Everybody always finds things wrong with every government.
At the time of the Scottish independence referendum the SNP were everywhere spouting their nationalist propaganda. People were afraid to say that they were unionists. It was pretty bad. However, the majority of us just went out and voted against independence. The silent majority spoke at the voting booths. I wonder what they'll say at this election?

growstuff Mon 09-Dec-19 13:11:46

I didn't expect an apology. You obviously have problems expressing yourself coherently so resort to profanities.

Yehbutnobut Mon 09-Dec-19 13:11:35

..in whatever language comes naturally to you!

Yehbutnobut Mon 09-Dec-19 13:10:51

If I posted what I actually think about the intellectual capacity of those who could even contemplate voting for a moronic, manipulating, misogynistic liar my post would be removed by GNHQ.

Luckily I am not going to do so but feel free to say what you want Opal

Opal Mon 09-Dec-19 13:10:24

I vote Tory and I do NOT hate the disabled and the vulnerable, that is complete rubbish pinkquartz. You're talking out of your a**e. You may think that Corbyn will look after the less fortunate in our society, but mark my words, under his Government, the economy will be destroyed, and the poor will become even poorer. Go and do some reading on socialism and why it has NEVER prospered and been successful. Wealth is only ever generated in a capitolist society, and there's a very good reason for that, it's because capitolism and market forces WORK.

You don't believe in statistics, and then you go and give one - confused.

MaizieD Mon 09-Dec-19 13:06:56

What is wrong with being a 'do gooder', Opal?

What is wrong with wanting the country's (indeed, the world's) resources shared more fairly so that everyone has the chance of a decent life, not just a section of the population?

pinkquartz Mon 09-Dec-19 13:01:57

Anyone voting Tory is person who hates the Disabled and the Vulnerable.

How can Chestnut vote for a party that is breaking the UK to shreds while quoting meaningless school statistics?
I don't believe in statistics they are always fudged.
But here is one: British teens are the most Unhappy in Europe.....

Opal Mon 09-Dec-19 13:00:40

MerylStreep - thanks for the support, but more of us SHOULD be posting what we think! Have the courage of your convictions and speak up, otherwise the loony left-wingers on here are able to spread their garbage without being challenged, and we should all want to stop that.

No, I got out of bed on the right side this morning growstuff, and then I get onto Gransnet and the left-wing propaganda machine makes me see red, so I start swearing. Yes, I am known to occasionally swear when I'm angry, don't expect an apology anytime soon! At least I'm honest in my language and convictions, and don't just spout the politically correct shit that the left-wing do-gooders on here keeping pumping out.

Yehbutnobut Mon 09-Dec-19 12:58:46

Wow Opal you have opened up a can of nasty, wriggly worms and some of them are coming out of the woodwork.

#scusemixedmeaphors

crystaltipps Mon 09-Dec-19 12:56:53

The Tories have been in power for 10
Years and they haven’t sorted out crime or immigration even though they’ve had 10 years to do it. The NHS is crumbling due to all the Tory cuts . Anyone would think they’d been in opposition for 10 years the way people think they are going to miraculously change anything. Boris was the most useless mayor of London told lies and wasted money like their was no tomorrow. The bikes and the Olympics were started by Livingstone.