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The future if Boris gets in

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Yehbutnobut Mon 09-Dec-19 08:09:32

Take back control??? ???

LadyGracie Mon 09-Dec-19 12:52:18

Lord help us if Labour win!

Persistentdonor Mon 09-Dec-19 12:51:30

What ever in the world makes anyone think that any of the issues which have remained unsatisfactory for the last 9 years under Tory rule, will suddenly be miraculously changed by the Tories if they get re-elected?

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Dec-19 12:50:02

Something to cheer us all up. It is by no means cut and dried.

Everything to play for

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/new-poll-shows-tory-lead-cut-to-6-tory-majority-can-be-stopped-with-tactical-voting/07/12/

MerylStreep Mon 09-Dec-19 12:43:36

Opal
Lots of posters support your comment ??? but most of us ( me included) haven't got the nerve to post it.

trisher Mon 09-Dec-19 12:41:46

I'm just thinking of all the Tories who don't support Boris and who he has effectively kicked out of the party, what do his supporters think of them?

Dinahmo Mon 09-Dec-19 12:38:22

We are not a presidential country. We should be voting for the party and not the leader.

dayvidg Mon 09-Dec-19 12:34:10

Why is it that all on the left expect Donald Trump to be re-elected next year?

growstuff Mon 09-Dec-19 12:33:51

Did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning Opal or is your language always this bad?

For whom are you paying? If you are, you're one of the wealthiest 30% in the country, so do stop moaning.

Opal Mon 09-Dec-19 12:29:22

WWM2 ^Here are just some who deserve our strong support: -
Poor people
Disabled people
Muslims
Black people
Gypsies & Travellers
Gay people
People with mental health conditions^
But what about those who are none of the above????? I guess we don't count, we're just expected to support and pay for everyone else?????
What absolute f**g rubbish you spout WWM2.

Yehbutnobut Mon 09-Dec-19 12:20:51

.So long as you know just who you are voting for. This will be the nature of our ‘special relationship’ and Trump makes Bush look like a MENSA candidate!

Yehbutnobut Mon 09-Dec-19 12:15:24

Gove in Education was a disaster and alienated teachers..

Yehbutnobut Mon 09-Dec-19 12:14:48

Oh dear. My Google search grew this up!

Statistics!

“However, despite attempts to replicate the educational practices of East Asian countries, the UK's performance in maths has fallen, with the UK dropping from 26th to 27th in the rankings with a decrease in average point score from 494 to 492.

According to the data, some 22 per cent of 15-year-olds in the UK do not reach Level 2 - the baseline level of achievement - which means they cannot solve problems "routinely faced by adults in their daily lives".

Overall, only 11 per cent of students in the UK are top performers, this is compared to Singapore, the top performing country, where 35 per cent of students are top performers.”

Whitewavemark2 Mon 09-Dec-19 12:13:17

Tom London

We Jews must stand rock solid in solidarity with all minority groups who feel threatened by this Tory PM

Here are just some who deserve our strong support: -
Poor people
Disabled people
Muslims
Black people
Gypsies & Travellers
Gay people
People with mental health conditions

Chestnut Mon 09-Dec-19 12:01:26

trisher - I simply stated a statistic, that we had moved from 29th to 14th place which is a good thing. I didn't go into any further details and I didn't do an assessment of Gove's period as Education Secretary as you laughingly stated.

dayvidg Mon 09-Dec-19 11:43:23

It's sad that British politics has now got to the stage where a lot of people are voting against what they don't want, rather than for what they do want. Until we go down the road of proportional representation, I fear this will only get worse. What happened to government of the people, for the people.

jannxxx Mon 09-Dec-19 11:37:28

sadly i feel (my opinion only) were doomed if we vote boris and were doomed if we vote corbyn.

trisher Mon 09-Dec-19 11:35:42

Actually that's a misleading piece of information Chestnut In fact although we have risen in the ranks our scores for reading and science have in fact remained much the same as 2006. So no real improvement I'm afraid. The organiser of the tests says that if the UK wants to rise to the top it needs to invest in teachers. Something I am sure the Tories will continue not to do. I almost laughed at your assessment of Gove's period as Education Secretary, unfortunately teachers had to endure him which was beyond a joke. For the facts behind the figures www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-50563833

MerylStreep Mon 09-Dec-19 11:27:03

Shaun is exactly the right person to lead London. He's been on the wrong side of the law himself, been a youth worker.
IMO he's the only one in the frame who has some insight into the gang culture.
Plus: he's lovely to look at. I know, shallow.?

Chestnut Mon 09-Dec-19 11:24:42

For all the Boris/Tory haters here's a bit of positive for you.
Ten years ago British schools were ranked 25th in the international league tables (out of 79 countries).
Now we have climbed up to 14th place.
In 2010 Michael Gove became Education Secretary and we started to embrace more traditional teaching methods.
It would obviously take time for these methods to show results, but now we can see the results.
I think that's something to be celebrated, though Tory haters probably won't see anything good in it.

Urmstongran Mon 09-Dec-19 11:22:45

You are obviously a Remainer then Shreddie as to us Leave voters it’s a no-brainer.

MaizieD Mon 09-Dec-19 11:22:24

f you are prepared to vote for Johnson, Chestnut, you are in no position to be judgemental about anything I say.

I never said you were Momentum...

Don't be coy about suspected Momentum members, then, Name names...

Shreddie Mon 09-Dec-19 11:17:22

omg how can anyone vote for Boris Johnson and the tories? You must all be super rich people with private health insurance. It beggars belief.

MaizieD Mon 09-Dec-19 11:14:09

Remainers are getting very het up

I haven't changed in 3 years, Ug. I've always been het up about the idiocy of Brexit. I got there years ago..

Chestnut Mon 09-Dec-19 11:11:38

MaizieD - I never said you were Momentum....there are a lot of other posters on here. You seem to have taken that remark personally.
Quoting the vile and repulsive comments people make on Twitter does indicate how low you're prepared to go however.

trisher Mon 09-Dec-19 11:10:25

newnany Boris was left with a good police force by Ken Livingston so of course knife crime went down. His legacy was of course a huge cut. Here's the graph I suppose putting something back you were responsible for geting rid of will satisfy some people. It's amazing how susceptible some people are.