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Tooting29 Fri 13-Dec-19 06:48:43

All the hyperbole, the grandstanding the rhetoric all over. We have a result and the British public have spoken. We have a conservative government.
Are we surprised?

maddyone Fri 13-Dec-19 15:13:47

Orly, agree, absolutely.

maddyone Fri 13-Dec-19 15:11:09

Totally agree with Growstuff though, we desperately need a credible opposition.

maddyone Fri 13-Dec-19 15:10:04

Opal, brilliant post.

maddyone Fri 13-Dec-19 15:08:54

You’re absolutely right Coco, Corbyn was a caring leader. He cared for the terrorists.

Chestnut Fri 13-Dec-19 15:06:27

orly - well said, a positive message in a nutshell!

orly Fri 13-Dec-19 14:58:34

I don't understand how people can be "saddened" and "shocked" and "worried" by the result. We're better off without Corbyn, McDonnell, Swinson and the Lib Dems "revoke Article 50" lackeys and all those other Remoaner MPs who have stymied the Referendum result from three and a half years ago. They've had their second "peoples' vote" and lost again in spectacular fashion so let's get on with Brexit and then return to concentrating on the country.

Calendargirl Fri 13-Dec-19 14:48:24

Anniel

With respect, Dennis Skinner is actually 87, so it’s probably time he called it a day anyway. He’s been an MP since 1950 I believe, so has had a good run.

I am thrilled Boris did so well, thought it would be a hung parliament. I found his speech this morning inspirational, the bluster and waffle was replaced with a clear vision of how this country could be great again.

Ramblingrose22 Fri 13-Dec-19 14:43:04

If the result gets rid of Jeremy Corbyn (and his dreadful advisers) I am pleased, though worried on other levels about Boris Johnson's policies and the type of Government he will lead.

We need a decent replacement as Leader of the Opposition who will finally hold the Government to account. I fear though that the hard left and unions will vote for someone of their own ilk. Having them on board and in positions of influence saddles the Labour Party to a corpse.

Greciangirl Fri 13-Dec-19 14:42:07

Shocked, disgusted, disappointed.

I can’t believe people can be so naive as to vote Johnson in again

I always say vote for the party, not the person.

I doubt very much if things will improve.
In fact let’s just wait and see what happens.

It won’t be good.

SalsaQueen Fri 13-Dec-19 14:29:07

I'm thrilled with the outcome, and not surprised. Corbyn is a Socialist and has done untold damage to the Labour party. I've always voted Conservative, and Boris is great for the party. The best thing since Margaret Thatcher.

Lizbethann55 Fri 13-Dec-19 14:24:40

I really feel the Labour party have only themselves to blame and for two reasons. Firstly Brexit. Like it or not, we had a referendum three years ago. The country voted to leave. Regardless of whether we were lied to, cheated or conned, we cannot say we live in a democracy but then ignore the results. Labour refused to sanction or support Mrs May's or Mr Johnson's deals, not because they disagreed with them but because they saw it as an opportunity to bring down the government and take over. Secondly, Mr Corbyn himself. Most of us are old enough to remember the damage far left governments caused back in the 70s when far left policies and the unions caused untold misery to industry and the population. The threat of the rise of the far left, momentum, and anti semitism frightened a lot of people away. Just that awful, moronic, thuggish chant "oh Jeremy Corbyn " like a mob of drunken football supporters was enough for me! As for me, I voted Green!!! So I lost anyway!!

growstuff Fri 13-Dec-19 14:16:07

It's not human nature at its worst. I hope very much that we have a credible opposition, which will hold the government to account - that's its role!

growstuff Fri 13-Dec-19 14:14:35

Have you been watching one of those poverty porn TV programmes Opal? grin

Alima Fri 13-Dec-19 14:14:12

I am not surprised but I am very relieved. If this Site is a snapshot of national feeling then the country is still at loggerheads with itself. The new Government will be damned whatever it does by “the other side” ready to call “foul”. Human nature at its worse.

Opal Fri 13-Dec-19 14:11:02

I think you'll find the miserable posts are from the Labour supporters! Beggars and museums?? We are one of the world's largest and most successful economies! Get a grip FFS. And quite frankly, I don't give a flying f**k how many kids BJ has got - I imagine he at least pays for them himself, unlike the family of 9 who started a GoFundMe page to pay for their kids' Christmas presents. They had 7 kids in 7 years. And the dad didn't work. Even his mother-in-law called him a lazy b***d. And before you all start screaming, no I know that not everyone on benefits are scroungers, and that's NOT what I'm saying, but I'd rather take the word of a responsible dad who pays for his own kids, than an irresponsible one who doesn't. You should be directing your rants at him and people like him, not people who work.

Paba24 Fri 13-Dec-19 14:09:11

Yes, very sad and worried here in the north of England too. We have been ignored here for decades the only time we had a second thought was by the EU. Sorry times ahead.

Coco51 Fri 13-Dec-19 14:06:19

Corbyn never was ‘far left’ he was and is a caring socialist, branded by the media who mostly are rampant Conservatives and distorted his message at every opportunity. So what happens now to the disabled, children and their working parents who have to resort to the humiliation of food banks to survive. I hope, when the NHS is privatised those who were concerned only with brexit see that what they wished for brought a very different outcome.

aprilrose Fri 13-Dec-19 14:03:16

I know this wont go down well with the soft hearted but I worked with homeless people /those in poverty for a time - albeit a while ago now. Whilst they always have "Heartbreaking " stories of their poverty and homelessness, when you scratched the surface often there was far more going on that could be solved by giving them a house or benefits. It was never a result of the cruel welfare system or the nasty politicians. Frequently they had issues of their own making.

MargaretSmollett Fri 13-Dec-19 14:02:02

What a sad crowd of mad old bats. I can no longer stand to read all your miserable posts. A man who has told proven lies to you will now be prime minister. Hope you won’t be needing the NHS.

freyja Fri 13-Dec-19 14:01:49

Sadly Israel exists because of the awful treatment of the Jewish people by the Nazis. Most decent people around the world accept this but why must the cost of a Jewish nation be at the expense of another nation , the Palestinians. Why can't people live side by side and in harmony?

We have become a nation of beggars and museums. Our once proud manufacturing factories from clothes to Concorde lay empty, telling the story of this great nation of yesteryear. Will BJ bring back our industries or will we be just packing boxes for China, India and America. Lining our towns with giant warehouses filled with inferior goods and plastic rubbish for us to buy.

We are forever asked for money by charities wherever you go or on the telly. What is BJ going to do about the people who are so desperately reliant on this money, will he open his purse or let the charities beg for more like Oliver.

There is so much wrong in this country I can't see us coming back from this election result. We have at least 5 more years of the same to look forward too.

Not much Christmas cheer to go around.
Merry Christmas everyonetchsad

Bluecat Fri 13-Dec-19 13:58:53

Anyone who thinks millions of people aren't living in poverty are kidding themselves.

My daughter deals with poverty-stricken people every day of her working life and the cases are heartbreaking - and endless.

Tories will do nothing to transform this situation.

Anniel Fri 13-Dec-19 13:56:13

Re Dennis Skinner. He was a real character but sadly being in poor health and at the age of 80 he really should have stood down rather than face such a bruising end to a long political career.

I am a Conservative and very happy at the size of the majority. People who are shocked and sad should have realised that the promise to honour the result of the referendum and then ignoring the will of the voters, would end as it did. Now Boris must make sure that one nation conservatism is how he governs. I am looking forward to seeing the HofC full of northern Conservative MPs.
How did you watch the election results. I am not at home at present and watched LBC on YouTube. It was fantastic!

Did anyone watch Sky News coverage with John Bercow? I am wondering how good it was.

robbymax Fri 13-Dec-19 13:50:10

i am 77 years young, and for the first time in years i feel optimistic for my grandchildren, if they work hard,stay away from the media and follow the work ethic of there parents, never hold a hand out for anything,
and allways stand on there own feet.
they will succeed.

Sussexborn Fri 13-Dec-19 13:48:05

At least we can move forward now! The country seems to have been stuck in a quagmire for the last three years.

Why is BJ’s marital status constantly brought in to play against him? Corbyn has been married three times and is thought to have had “dalliances” but everyone is ok with that?

juneski Fri 13-Dec-19 13:46:23

No. Disappointed, but not surprised! Despite the large majority, sadly I think we are going to remain a Broken Britain for some time yet. Some of the vitriolic comments I have seen on Facebook this morning against Labour supporters have been horrific. I sincerely want all my fears about a Conservative government under Johnson to be proved wrong, I really do! But I am not going to change my views and just "shut up". Democracy means I have to and will accept the result, but it does not mean my freedom to air my views has been taken away.