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Tooting29 Fri 13-Dec-19 06:48:43

All the hyperbole, the grandstanding the rhetoric all over. We have a result and the British public have spoken. We have a conservative government.
Are we surprised?

NotSpaghetti Fri 13-Dec-19 11:06:31

The OP asks if we are surprised... no.

Johnson ran a "good" if rather fact-light campaign and lots of people like his simple and straightforward slogan/message. Farage stepping candidates down united the "leave" vote. The fault is partly not having a remain coalition - but that was rejected by Corbyn who, unless seen in person is somewhat low energy and lacking charisma.

I understand there were overall more remain than leave voters. Now we know for sure why Johnson was afraid to put his EU deal back to the people for verification.

But, now we are where we are and whilst some of us may expect the worst, we have to hope for the best.

Photocrazy Fri 13-Dec-19 11:05:20

No and perhaps it's a new beginning?

mbody Fri 13-Dec-19 11:05:10

Democracy at work at last.

JuliaB Fri 13-Dec-19 11:04:19

Not surprised - horrified!

Curlywhirly Fri 13-Dec-19 11:03:51

Well, I'm a socialist and a remainer - so not a good day for me! All I can do now is wait and see just how the Tories get on and hope it doesn't all unravel. I said yesterday, that I didn't envy whoever was voted in power, they certainly have a job on their hands. We are a massively divided country and unfortunately, I don't see us uniting any time soon. My main fear is what kind of deal Boris will make with the USA, that deal will have far-reaching consequences for our country for generations to come.

Annofarabia Fri 13-Dec-19 11:03:47

I hope they now realise that if you have a Referendum you have to respect the result. It should never had dragged on for years, they have created this toxic situation by trying to overturn the result in 2016. An educated Northern Leaver.

Opal Fri 13-Dec-19 11:02:54

Thanks Esspee. I must admit I've often wondered why some Scots would vote for independence from the UK and Westminster, but stay with the EU and Brussels. It doesn't make sense to me either.

Lolahill5 Fri 13-Dec-19 10:59:30

Absolutely gutted. Love jeremy. Now we have that baffoon Boris and awful conservatives

Craicon Fri 13-Dec-19 10:59:21

Thoroughly Depressed.
The only bright spark is Independence for Scotland.
Bring it on ASAP.
Fuck the Tories!

HootyMcOwlface Fri 13-Dec-19 10:58:46

We'll be careful what you wish for, Johnson will be mollycoddling the billionaires funding him, running down our services and then selling them off cheaply to them. Let's see how chirpy you are then.

newnanny Fri 13-Dec-19 10:58:09

Boris drained the swamp. No more Domenic Grieve, Anna Soubury or David Gauke and what a bonus to be rid of Jo Swinson. Basically the blockers got their marching orders and rightly so as many stood in 2017 election after promising to respect result of referendum and then did everything they could to block it.

Now Boris can get us out by Jan 1st and then start working on getting us a basic free trade agreement whist also setting up trade deals with Australia, New Zealand, and other Commonwealth countries.

I think Boris will do well and listen to all parts of the country. He wants to share prosperity across the country instead of just focusing on London. Soon we will have free ports in coastal towns and bring much new employment so these regions can share in growth.

The pound has shot up now risk of JC has gone. This just goes to show the UK still very much wants to leave the EU.

lemongrove Fri 13-Dec-19 10:55:10

I see the defeatist crystal balls are out ( so soon!)?
The relief is that there won’t be Marxists in number ten.
Now Johnson can pull out all the stops with getting on with leaving the EU and enacting domestic policies which will be good for the country. It doesn’t mean carrying on with austerity, why would it?

Authoress Fri 13-Dec-19 10:54:59

Horrified. What have we done?! Well, we know the economy will be shot for the next decade. Both Scotland and Northern Ireland have shown conclusively that they want no part of the Union. I feel like I've been gut-punched; I'm still in shock.

spookygran Fri 13-Dec-19 10:52:26

I'd rather have Johnson than a IRA supporting ,anti-Semite who would have paid for everything he promised by taxing the working man again and mollycoddling all those that won't work.Most politicians are self serving and are in it for themselves no matter which party they support.

EllanVannin Fri 13-Dec-19 10:52:12

Urmstongran
I do hope that Boris proves himself to the people of Liverpool and also those over the water where I am ( Cheshire ), surrounded by red voters. I feel like the rose between the two thorns but I've always voted Conservative all my life though admit to wanting to Remain in the EU, but so be it. I'm not going to make a song and dance about it.

I think because of these last pre-election jitters my thoughts were that this country couldn't possibly manage without the back-up of the EU unless we had a powerful leader in-situ who would have been prepared to call the shots rather than be led and made to fall into their ( union ) way without a fight.

However that's no longer going to be a problem.

4allweknow Fri 13-Dec-19 10:52:04

Not surprised at the overall result. In Scotland the SNP unfortunately reaped more seats. This election wasn't about which political party is better for the masses it was about another Indyref. Still can't get my head around why.

Aepgirl Fri 13-Dec-19 10:49:03

A little surprised, but absolutely delighted.

annab275 Fri 13-Dec-19 10:48:11

I don't get the optimism in all this - I respect that democracy has won, but I cannot see much difference between Johnson and Trump. I am clearly out of step with the majority but will be interested to see what life will be like in a couple of years or so once reality hits.

Froglady Fri 13-Dec-19 10:47:51

No I'm not surprised but had hoped for a different result. I do not want a liar and a buffoon as my prime minister. I hope that the people who chose not to vote don't start moaning about the result.

EMMF1948 Fri 13-Dec-19 10:45:50

*Dennis Skinner losing his seat was a shock.
He is ill and couldn’t attend the Results.
His heart must be broken, an old school Labour man.*

As much as I delighted with the result I find his loss very sad. I might not have agreed with his party or policies but I did think he was one of the few MPs true to their beliefs, not wavering with the whim. Hope he has a long, happy retirement from Parliament

Esspee Fri 13-Dec-19 10:45:39

Perhaps I should add that last time I voted FOR independence.

Annecan Fri 13-Dec-19 10:44:42

Wonderful news.
Democracy in action.
Or would you like another people's election?
Maybe best of three?
Was this election purely advisory?
Or just a lot of ignorant old, white fascists getting their way again?

Better result than anyone could expect.
The people have spoken
Fantastic

Esspee Fri 13-Dec-19 10:44:41

@Opal
The general feeling here in Scotland (in my experience) has swung away from independence with people wishing the SNP would concentrate on running the country. Most people I have spoken to feel that independence from Westminster while begging to become a vassal state of Strasbourg makes no sense. If an Indy vote was held next year it would be defeated. Of that I have no doubt.

pita Fri 13-Dec-19 10:43:45

I can't believe that this country has voted for more children going to school hungry, when there are already nearly 4 million children living in poverty now thanks to this government, why would anyone want to vote to sell the NHS which is exactly what will now continue to happen, the only thing that comes to my mind with such selfishness is, as you sow, so shall you reap.

Susieq62 Fri 13-Dec-19 10:43:18

My Tory MP who does nothing for our constituents was re-elected to my horror.
I despise Tory austerity, more of that to come. I fear for the future of my country which is becoming bigoted, racist, mercenary and lacking in compassion.
Corbyn was never going to win. He is/ was the wrong leader . I am in such a bad mood I have to clean the house!!