So now we know

I am in despair reading through these comments. Compassion, empathy and general all round niceness seem to have left these shores. I’m not sure I belong here any more.

Opal, Urmstongran

I did not vote for Boris, I voted for a candidate who has achieved a reasonable amount in the last few years. He just happened to be Tory. If there had been a decent second choice and I had been able to vote for them for party reasons, I would have done.
There is a lot of hysteria about “selling off” the NHS but the figures just don’t add up. Quite frankly, when there was a choice to go to France to have hip ops or stay in England for them the NHS could not compete in efficiency or service. We need to look very carefully at the way it is run and get it fit for purpose. As a nation we really need to have the discussion about how to do that.
Do I feel like crowing? No, I hate the discord, the intolerance, the hate, etc, etc. Do I think it would have been any better if the other side had won? No, because despite all the hand wringing about the vulnerable, poor and sick, the majority don’t do anything to help, they just like to rubbish other people. I want a middle road, with more tolerance for genuinely sick and suffering people and a big stick for those who refuse to help themselves because they think it is ok to keep taking.

Not quite sure how 'democracy has prevailed' when 45% of the votes were unrepresented. I didn't want Corbyn either, but can't rejoice at the power now wielded by the arrogant, immoral, entitled toff Boris. One of his supporters actually told me that people who need to use food banks are 'tattooed thickos who won't take responsibility' for their lives'. Such a blanket demeaning of all people in difficult circumstances appals me.

Mr Toad in charge, well I never! I suppose we get what we deserve. Poop Poop

I am still waiting for Tory to tell me about the virtuous things that have been done in the last 10 years. I wait on........

Please be clear - I am not a Labour supporter - although voted for them this time as a local tactical vote - and I have no support for JC and the team around him, but I do feel very concerned about what this result means for those at the bottom of the heap. The wide gap between rich and poor, which is likely now to worsen, is seriously dangerous for us all, both rich and poor. One of the reasons the referendum went the way it did was in part nothing to do with Brexit, but the actions of people who had been downtrodden for so long - it was a chance to deal out a bloody nose.

This election campaign was clearly nonsense - people talking about JC as PM - that was never going to happen and was just a Tory threat to rally voters. The best result we could have hoped for was a Tory majority sufficiently small to clip their wings from their excesses of policies that make the poor poorer.

I am very happy and relieved that at last the 17.5 million people who voted leave are not longer being told that they are stupid and that their own MPs in their "Leave" constituency know better than them. I voted to join "The Common Market" which for quite a while worked well, until the butter mountains etc,. I didn't vote to be taken over by non elected bureaucrats in Brussels. This election was another referendum and again the public spoke. Now let's get it done.

Please can someone take Urmston to lie down and calm down. Her blood pressure must be through the roof. Let's hope she doesn't need the NHS.

How do you know that you will get into the EU as an independent country asap after independence?

So happy! Democracy has prevailed - at long last !!!

too much

@Opal

The general feeling here in Scotland (in my experience) has swung towards independence with people wishing the SNP would continue to run the country. Most people I have spoken to feel that independence from Westminster while wishing to retain all the benefits of remaining in the European Union makes a lot of sense. Especially if you are intelligent and open minded. Instead of being racist and narrow minded. If an Indy vote was held next year it would be for independence. Of that I have no doubt. All depends who your friends and acquaintances are doesn’t it. I think you have been listening to much to Jacob Rees-Mogg! You do not speak for me.

Wow, just wow. I was in despair this morning and genuinely couldn't understand why people were voting Tory, but reading through this thread, I can see why - and I now despair even more. What a bunch of uncaring, callous people some of you are...

Aprilrose
I read your comment from page 10. I agree with you 100%. I worked with people on benefits and the homeless at shelters prior to moving abroad. I was always amazed at the hard luck stories whilst they sat there smoking with Sky on in the background. Homelessness is a problem. Some choose this though and I would suggest that people go out on the streets volunteer, to see if they can help instead of sitting at their dining tables professing over this. Volunteering is a very noble cause.

Where I live, in Portugal, you pay 4.50e to see a GP. 1.20 for an X-ray (on cd) and for your prescriptions young or old. What wrong with that? It would keep the hypercondriacs at bay.

Hopefully the Uk will start training their own nurses and doctors and care staff instead of pinching other countries.

Chestnut, he didn't stand up to the flack. He refused to do interviews, and when challenged, ran away and hid in a fridge. Will that fridge be going with him as he faces world leaders, and their very experienced negotiators, on his soon to be trade deal tours?
NotSpaghetti a 'fact-light campaign'? Really? You mean he constantly told lies.
JC is a 'risk to security'. I look forward to reading the suppressed Russian Dossier, to find out who is the real security risk.
Get Brexit done? Could be another election before it is half way there. Estimates are it could take ten years.
Merry Christmas to one an all.

Felt elated this morning when I heard the results,sick of hearing Swinson shouting & ignoring Democracy,can’t see how they can be called Lib Dem’s .....should be Lib Undemocratic party!!So pleased time hear of the demise of Sourface Soubry & all the rest of the rabble,who tried all ways to stop Brexit .We’ve waited over 3 years for this !!!!!

Well said Rosina. I do admire the way Boris stood up to all the flack over the last few months, from the HoC and the press. They really hammered him! But he stood firm and did not waver even when they tried to send him to jail. A strong leader.

OK. Boris has won. But in all his negotiations in Bruxelles,
(I’m not going to use the B......t word,), I feel the couple of million of us brits living in Europe have been totally forgotten/ignored. I’m thinking of taking French nationality I’m so worried about my status here. And, will I have to get a visa to visit the uk, the land of my birth and my heritage?

Relief. The thought of puppet Corbyn and the frightening bunch of hard left lurking behind him was the stuff of nightmares. His manifesto sounded highly desirable but sadly ridiculous unless you wanted the country to be bankrupt within six months. Only a fool would believe that Labour could implement the manifesto without ruining the economy.
I am not alone in liking Boris - he has had a terrible press, and printing reams about his private life, the number of children he has, or any other matters not related to his political careeer is intrusive; he will never talk about his private life, and neither should anyone else. In other countries presidents and politicians are able to have a life outside of politics - it is only here that newspapers pick on public figures and blow up tiny incidents, hound people with silly made up stories and pry into matters which are private.

Annie, I feel sorry for Luciana Berger too, I commented as much to DH this morning. She has been driven out due to anti semitism in the Labour Party. Will it improve under a new leader? We’ll have to wait and see.

Remainers wanted a second referendum, well yesterday they got their wish and still lost.
So let’s get on with it and get out.
The liberals lost and I always used to vote for them because they clearly don’t believe in democracy and labour lost because it’s a dead party with that loon at the helm

I am so relieved,at last we will get Brexit sorted........the British people have shunned Corbyn & socialism,he would have taken us back 50/60 years & we need to go forward not back.Well done to Boris & the Conservative Party!!!

The British people certainly know how to deal with troublemakers through the ballot box. Kick the bu**ers out! So many arch-remainer MPs who fought tooth and nail to block Brexit for the last three years and have caused so much trouble.....have all lost their seats! Anna Soubry, Dominic Grieve, David Gauke, Chuka Umunna etc. etc. And of course they kicked out Jo Swinson who wanted to stop Brexit altogether.
The people have certainly spoken!

Can’t help it, I have to correct you Barmeyoldbat, state schools do not pay VAT. If anything is bought outside of the educational catalogues by staff who then wish to claim back what they have spent, they have to produce a VAT receipt, not just an ordinary receipt. Without the VAT receipt, the school I worked at refused to reimburse the teacher!

I wish to point out to those angsting about the result that Conservatives are good, honest, law abiding, tax paying , hardworking people who have just as much care for the NHS and their fellow man as the angsters. Some folks do virtue signalling and, on the whole, Conservatives do virtue. Wow! - where did that idea come from!!??

I think you are quite wrong sadly. A party that can create a benefit (that is the only port of call for those in need) that requires the applicant to wait 5 weeks before it kicks in has no regard whatsoever for his/her fellowmen - seriously, what did they think people (including children) with nothing would live on in those 5 weeks? Ah - I remember - food banks - a feature of the Tory era.

Where exactly is the virtue in that? I am struggling to spot it.

Just because someone states their concern for the under-privileged under a Tory government does not mean they are "virtue signalling" - it simply means they are very worried indeed. And rightly so.

I would like it if those who are happy with this result might list the things that the last 10 years have achieved for the underprivileged, rather than accusing those who are concerned about it of virtue signalling. Let's hear some of the virtue that the Tories have achieved. Tell us all exactly how the Tory party "does virtue."

Seriously - I am not joking or having a dig - I would simply be really interested to know.